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France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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It's kind of good news, but it's also bad news -- with Linux popularity, crapware will be more popular. I kind of liked times when Linux was used only by power users. Today it's slightly different, and with more popularity... we get things like age verification in systemd. But well, I can always switch to FreeBSD I guess. And that's my plan B.

I am very happy that Linux is becoming main stream but I share your sentiment. FreeBSD is a nice alternative if you want to stay on the edge.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

#112
Europe in general have great software engineers. What it lacks is investment. To see the goverment serving its own country instead of foreign billionaire interests is good change of pace.

And Linux development and adoption helps everybody not just France. A win win.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

#113
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if American companies started using it if the French get it right. The instability of the current administration is one thing, but Microsoft disregard for its user deserves an appropriate response that will actually hit them where they care.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

#114

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Like last time, I ask again: Which are the European made computers?

What are the American-made computers? The Apple macbook assembled in China with Korean displays and Taiwanese chips?

I haven't mentioned America or any other continent. It is the Europeans who are shouting about sovereignty right now.

Americans for their part would probably be very happy to use made-in-Europe software on their computers whenever applicable.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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Qwant is working on that. Together with Ecosia they're building their own index called the European Search Perspective: "Today, Europe receives 99% of the answers to search queries from external infrastructures. We believe, however, that a higher level of digital sovereignty is essential for a functioning democracy and economy. With our new web index, we are creating a European perspective on politics, culture and va…

> a European perspective on politics, culture and values To be honest this does not sound much better. 40 years ago maybe I would have preferred EU values over the US' puritan values. Nowadays I'd just expect a different flavor of poison.

If they were a monopolist, sure. But as an alternative, I'll take it.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

#117
Many government orgs have spent the last decade and a half slowly transitioning old legacy applications and platforms to browser-based alternatives. That old ERP software that used to require a thick client? Now it runs in Chrome. Microsoft recognized this and smartly moved to keep these customers locked in via an ever growing Microsoft Office bundle - subscription based, with Teams for their chat and then building up additional capabilities to extend the dependency, like InTune.

Where we are at now is that the pain of moving away from Windows is acceptable for many larger organizations and governments, especially those with flat or decreasing budgets. You can just swap out the OS layer and keep other processes the same - keep using Office with just the browser versions if you want, or move to an alternative (like EU-based). Teams works on Linux. There is no moat on Windows anymore

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

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MacOS is the same sort of walled garden as Windows though. It has plenty of dark patterns in stuff like iCloud too, I imagine with some more years of enshittification it will be in a similar state to Windows today.

And corporate customers like the French government will want their users to be within strictly controlled environments - walled gardens. That's why they've used Microsoft for so long. MacOS isn't as good for this scenario from what I understand, but is Linux?

IMO the walled garden doesn't have to be the employee's computer but centralized servers holding the data, intranet services, etc.

Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech

#120
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Yeah good on them, everyone needs to do this. It's nuts Windows is still the go-to for anything these days despite everyone knowing what a parasitic, buggy mess it is. "Easy" shouldn't be the excuse in this day and age. Big orgs and especially government entities should be hiring the people that know what they're doing and get off that crummy platform.

> It's nuts Windows is still the go-to for anything these days despite everyone knowing what a parasitic

Linux still doesn't have anywhere near as nice and cohesive as Group Policy, Active Directory etc.

Plus you can pay Microsoft to host it all for you on Azure.

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