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We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by schnitzelstoat »

OtomotO wrote: post #197
znnajdla wrote: post #191

I continue to be amazed at American capital allocation. $17M for an idea to improve Git? For a fraction of that money Ukrainian housewives build anti-drone air defence systems in their garage that protect their country. For that kind of money you could build an apartment block to ease the housing shortage. You could invest in electricity resilience and build mini nuclear power plants or a small wind farm. Soviet capi…

But then again, for a fraction of the money US-Americans pay for health insurance, we actually have public health insurance here... Yes, we have higher taxes, yes, we pay more in social security... but in the end we have far less "Working Poor" and I know very, very, very, very few people who have more than 1 job. But I guess that's just socialist bullshit. What I am trying to convey is: The US lives in its own bubbl…

Europe is far from perfect though. In all the three countries I'm familiar with (UK, Sweden, Spain) the healthcare system is really struggling. Extremely long wait times are becoming more common, for more procedures, even in the emergency departments.

But the taxes remain very high, especially on income so it hits middle-class professionals the hardest. In some countries like Spain (and increasingly Sweden) they are contributing to a high structural unemployment, especially youth unemployment, too.

So in the end, the problem isn't just higher taxes, but higher unemployment and therefore lower gross salaries (before those higher taxes are even taken into account).

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by IanCal »

fxtentacle wrote: post #15

I feel like I really need to learn how to raise money. For $17M, one could probably build a vacuum robot prototype that’ll also clean up all of the kids toys and sort LEGO bricks by colour and size. Parents worldwide would love it. But instead, we get a replacement for Git. And I didn’t even bother to click the link because I’m fine with how Git works. On the list of pain points in my life, “what comes after Git” has…

I think it’s always good to dig a bit deeper on these things.

This seems ridiculous to you, compared to a very obvious win with a Lego sorting vacuum.

Lego isn’t niche, and the explanation isn’t a weird technical thing that only experts would get and understand how important or valuable it is.

Yet it’s not being done.

Is there nobody who has realised this gap but you? Has nobody managed to convince people with money that it’s worthwhile? Have you tried but failed?

Or is it not many many thousands of people who are wrong but you?

Is the problem harder than you think? I’ve worked with robotics but not for a long time and I think the core manipulation is either not really solved or not until recently. I don’t know about yours but my kids also don’t fully dismantle their Lego creations either so would the robot need to take them apart too? That’s a lot of force. And some are special.

How people want Lego sorted is pretty broad. Kids don’t even need it sorted that much. And the volume can be huge for smaller buckets of things.

Is the market not as big as you think? Is it big enough for the cost, I’d buy one for £100 but £1000? £10,000?

How does it compare for most people against having the kids play on a blanket and then tipping it into a bucket? Or those ones that are a circle of cloth with a drawstring so it’s a play area and storage all in one? I 3d printed some sieves and that’s most of the issue right there done.

People are solving actual problems, but lots of problems are hard, and not all of them are profitable.

As a gut feeling, there is such a large overlap of engineers and large Lego collections and willingness to spend lots of money and time saving some time sorting Lego that the small number of implementations usually split over many years is very telling about the difficulty.

For what it’s worth I want this too.

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by repelsteeltje »

znnajdla wrote: post #191

I continue to be amazed at American capital allocation. $17M for an idea to improve Git? For a fraction of that money Ukrainian housewives build anti-drone air defence systems in their garage that protect their country. For that kind of money you could build an apartment block to ease the housing shortage. You could invest in electricity resilience and build mini nuclear power plants or a small wind farm. Soviet capi…

After a decade of negative interest, there is still a lot of excess capital looking for high-risk-high-gain investments. Perceived future economic value is unfortunately not in the stuff we know and understand to be useful, essential.

Use value != sales value; hype sells.

Ps. not too sure how far $17M gets you toward mini nuclear power plants, but I catch your drift.

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by _fizz_buzz_ »

arnvald wrote: post #209
toenail wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that even mean? Multiple branches is a git feature.

I think it means parallel branches. Normally in git you can use one branch at a time. With agentic coding you want agents to build multiple features at the same time, each in a separate branch

Can agents not checkout different branches and then work on them? It's what people also do. I have a hard time to understand what problem is even solved here.

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by sunir »

fxtentacle wrote: post #15

I feel like I really need to learn how to raise money. For $17M, one could probably build a vacuum robot prototype that’ll also clean up all of the kids toys and sort LEGO bricks by colour and size. Parents worldwide would love it. But instead, we get a replacement for Git. And I didn’t even bother to click the link because I’m fine with how Git works. On the list of pain points in my life, “what comes after Git” has…

4 McDonalds. That’s a better way of measuring it.

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by latexr »

> I know what you’re thinking. You’re hoping that we’ll use phrases such as “we’re excited,” “this is just the beginning,” and “AI is changing everything”. While all those things are true

Superbly tone deaf. The only people who might possibly want to read that are those already drinking your Kool-Aid, most everyone else can already smell the bullshit.

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by repelsteeltje »

OtomotO wrote: post #200
foxglacier wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd have thought the same about all the big tech companies when they were startups. Yet now they're making piles of money and contributing to America's overall economic success.

Back then the landscape was a different one. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon all were founded years or decades before Git was created and money had a different value back then. (Inflation) For every unicorn there are tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands dead horses...

> For every unicorn there are tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands dead horses...

Nicely put!

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by OtomotO »

schnitzelstoat wrote: post #211
OtomotO wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then again, for a fraction of the money US-Americans pay for health insurance, we actually have public health insurance here... Yes, we have higher taxes, yes, we pay more in social security... but in the end we have far less "Working Poor" and I know very, very, very, very few people who have more than 1 job. But I guess that's just socialist bullshit. What I am trying to convey is: The US lives in its own bubbl…

Europe is far from perfect though. In all the three countries I'm familiar with (UK, Sweden, Spain) the healthcare system is really struggling. Extremely long wait times are becoming more common, for more procedures, even in the emergency departments. But the taxes remain very high, especially on income so it hits middle-class professionals the hardest. In some countries like Spain (and increasingly Sweden) they are…

I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. We are definitely heading in the wrong direction. It's the same development here (not UK, Sweden or Spain)

I'm paying maximum social security and in previous generations the service you got in the public healthcare system was way better.

For some procedures I definitely go to private doctors as well nowadays. It's not a huge burden, but e.g. I will never go to a public skin doctor ever. The stories you hear about them are... brrr!

But overall the system is still miles ahead of the one in the United States. I've been there on multiple occasions and witnessed first hand, I have friends there and I know both systems. (Obviously I know the European system or rather the one in my country of residence even better)

Re: We've raised $17M to build what comes after Git

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Post by OtomotO »

repelsteeltje wrote: post #218
OtomotO wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back then the landscape was a different one. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon all were founded years or decades before Git was created and money had a different value back then. (Inflation) For every unicorn there are tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands dead horses...

> For every unicorn there are tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands dead horses... Nicely put!

And it was 100% natural (un)intelligence. No "AI" involved! :)

So thanks, I take this compliment. You just made my day!

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