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The twisting started with Paulus
He certainly has his critics, but in my view it’s absurd to place him next to the Crusades, Inquisition, et al…
https://ehrmanblog.org/the-messages-of-jesus-and-paul-basica...
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I'm ex-catholic but not quite sure the "we want to be free to oppress catholics" narrative quite holds up in the case of the trump admin. The current supreme court has 6 catholic justices, with 2 appointed by trump. 2 of them rubber stamp everything trump does (alito and thomas), and most of the others support him more often than not (rogers, coney-barrett, kavanaugh). Only sotomayor opposes him frequently. If you co…
Because they figure those two will flip to their side if forced to make a choice. Note for example that Pete Hegseth made an explicit choice to exclude Catholic worship from the Pentagon chapel this past Good Friday.
A fan of niche medieval history might have threatened the pope with an Outrage of Anagni, much cooler reference than Avignon
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The twisting started with Paulus
He certainly has his critics, but in my view it’s absurd to place him next to the Crusades, Inquisition, et al…
The Crusades and Inquisition, bad as they were, were also limited in space and time. Paul's words have arguably done damage across the entirety of Christendom to this day.
There is a lot to source from Christian ideals, many of which are the foundations of Western culture: human dignity, moral equality, conscience, limits on power and care for those less fortunate and weaker. Much of what is happening in the world today feels like a stark reversal of those ideals: selfishness and divisiveness manufactured to promote a narrow segment of society. Recent news articles have indicated an in…
From what I’ve seen religions derive from basic human virtues and not the other way around.
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Even in France I'm willing to bet the majority of people outside of Avignon have no idea about it. Any history major with interest in medieval Europe, yes, any middle schooler? No way.
The Finnish term translates as "Avignon captivity" rather than the more neutral "Avignon Papacy", which could be a clue. It's easy to imagine that a traditional Protestant society would use a debacle like that to illustrate how silly those Catholics and their power struggles are and why the Reformation was necessary.
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Another example for you.. Rather than donate money to the church, I donate my time and talent instead. In that way it is focused 100% on my local parish. Another one, I develop my relationship with god in a way that is helped by worship through the church, but is not dependent on it. There are loads of times where the "leadership" of the church leaves something to be desired, yet the progress of gods kindgom marches…
> I develop my relationship with god in a way that is helped by worship through the church, but is not dependent on it. The Church certainly disagrees with you, teaching that the visible Church is the ordinary means of salvation and full communion with Christ. (see the Precepts, CCC ~846–848)
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Another example for you.. Rather than donate money to the church, I donate my time and talent instead. In that way it is focused 100% on my local parish. Another one, I develop my relationship with god in a way that is helped by worship through the church, but is not dependent on it. There are loads of times where the "leadership" of the church leaves something to be desired, yet the progress of gods kindgom marches…
> I develop my relationship with god in a way that is helped by worship through the church, but is not dependent on it. The Church certainly disagrees with you, teaching that the visible Church is the ordinary means of salvation and full communion with Christ. (see the Precepts, CCC ~846–848)
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Perhaps somehow related to founding protestants fleeing catholic persecution. It’s the sort of thing that will leave the world blind.
The Puritans, what we generally mean when we say 'founding protestants,' weren't fleeing persecution from Catholics. In fact, they weren't fleeing persecution at all! They were living in the (relatively) religiously tolerant Netherlands. They left the Netherlands because they weren't succeeding in business there. They came to North America essentially as economic migrants.