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Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

#51

What do people use for Windows-like window management on macos? I tried a bunch of them and I'm not a fan of any of them. I actively dislike the notion of spaces.

My Cmd-TAB frustration is I'm usually moving the mouse while I press it, causing the mouse to select some unwanted app. It doesn't help that the row of apps forms a solid bar across the center of my display.

Wish I could ignore mouse movement when the app switcher is displayed.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

#52
I grew up with this animation so I didn't consider it annoying until I bought a new Macbook a couple years ago.

I noticed sometimes I would press keyboard shortcuts before my system's focus had switched. Just little stumbles here and there, some inoffensive, some annoying, but who knows maybe I didn't catch enough sleep.

Over time it happened often enough that I decided to google it, and it turns out my muscle memory wasn't failing me; the animation speed did change ever so slightly and was slower in new Macs with 120Hz displays [1][2] (newer MacBooks, 2021+). If you switch your screen to 60Hz it goes back to the faster animation.

Why is this animation slower now, and why does it depend on screen refresh rate? I have some technical theories but can't think of an organizational reason it happened and hasn't been fixed 5 years later at a 3.82 trillion market cap company. If you Google it there's plenty of discussions online about this. It's noticeable and annoying to people who have used the feature often enough.

[1]: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256124324?sortBy=rank

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNBWt4NvqHg

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

#53
Tangentially related.

After a restart, and after Finder has opened multi-tab windows I have open before, clicking on a tab can suddenly move my view and the window to another space.

Apparently different tabs in the same window can think they belong to different spaces.

Something (I perceive as) common to a lot of the (perceived) increase in Apple software glitches recently, is I cannot fathom the logic for which the bug makes any sense. It does not feel like I am seeing corner case bugs, but instead major "bad-model" code, revealing its poor design.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

#55
There's a lot of great options in the field of macOS window managers. Instant switching to another space is one of the big features I was looking for too.

Exploring wm for macOS, I realized there was a lot of good software, so I built a directory website to try and list them all: https://macoswm.com.

yabai and AeroSpace are two personal favorites. OmniWM [1] is the current favorite on macosWM.com

[1] https://github.com/BarutSRB/OmniWM

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

#56
This is nice. Sounds like it wouldn't solve the slow animation when entering or leaving full screen mode though. I'm fed up enough with macOS's poor window management (among many other things) that I'm looking for MacBook alternatives.

The M5 chip is way ahead of Intel's latest, even Panther Lake. But the Snapdragon X2 Elite looks like a viable alternative. It's the only competitor with comparable single core performance, and it comes with 48 GB of extremely fast RAM for a reasonable price with great battery life. Unfortunately Linux support isn't really there yet, but hey M5 MacBooks don't support Linux well either.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

#57

I'm still incredibly frustrated by Apple's Mission Control and Full Screen features. The old Expose and Spaces and windows-style maximise would be so much better.

I agree that I miss when spaces could be on a grid in Snow Leopard instead of only in a straight line, but what is wrong with Exposé? From my POV it works the same as it always has.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

#60

What do people use for Windows-like window management on macos? I tried a bunch of them and I'm not a fan of any of them. I actively dislike the notion of spaces.

What do people use for Windows-like window management on macos? I tried a bunch of them and I'm not a fan of any of them.

I actively dislike the notion of spaces.

What do people assume Spaces is a Windows thing? It was on Unix systems decades ago.

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