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OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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tadfisher wrote: post #17
notatoad wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And more importantly the investors are all gone gone. they closed a $120bn funding round last week... i think i feel about the same as you towards openai, but come on.

Note that they themselves described that amount as "committed capital", not something you or I would consider "funding" if we were to raise for a typical startup. If there are strings attached, such as "will be able to navigate red tape to get X number of DC sites approved", then the number depends on OpenAI's ability to execute.

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Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Post by TeMPOraL »

kryptiskt wrote: post #13
verdverm wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't expect prices for RAM or SSD to get cheaper anytime soon. From what I've seen, production capacity has been bought out for a couple years already.

Datacenter capex decreasing means that the chips have to go somewhere else, so it doesn't matter too much that the fab capacity has been spoken for, if the demand side is slacking prices will decrease.

OpenAI aren't the only ones who were increasing their datacenter capex.

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Post by Rover222 »

Elon called it when this was announced. Sam never had the money. Interesting to contrast those two characters.

I think Sam is somewhat sociopathic, smooth salesman, not very technical, will say whatever needs to be said to get what he wants.

Elon is on the spectrum and has bad social judgement and is just immature in a lot of ways, is very direct and means what he says when he says it, even if it's often unrealistic or misguided. Is extremely technical, and honestly I think has better intentions, just gets in his own way a lot.

Dario is an odd duck but seems stable and good intentions, very technical (I think?).

Hasib, wow what a normal, likable guy, extremely technical.

Zuckerberg seems to finally be entering the chat in terms of big AI models.

I think Altman scares me the most, in terms of having control of this tech. Hasib probably seems the best to control it. Just in terms of if I had to pick one.

Re: OpenAI puts Stargate UK on ice, blames energy costs and red tape

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Post by galleywest200 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #24
kryptiskt wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Datacenter capex decreasing means that the chips have to go somewhere else, so it doesn't matter too much that the fab capacity has been spoken for, if the demand side is slacking prices will decrease.

OpenAI aren't the only ones who were increasing their datacenter capex.

No, but they are the ones who placed an order for 40% of the world's supply.

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Post by krunck »

"It[Stargate UK] was hailed by the British government at the time as a boost for its own ambitions to make the country a world leader in AI."

How does having an AI heat farm in the UK help with that? It's still owned and controlled by a US entity. Or is "being a leader" synonymous with "being a customer?"

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Post by orbifold »

Aurornis wrote: post #15
avazhi wrote: post #8

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> And more importantly the investors are all gone gone. I can't even understand what this post is trying to say, considering OpenAI raised a giant new funding round mere weeks ago.

A lot of that is compute commitments and NVIDIA has a 80% margin

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Post by Ardon »

krunck wrote: post #27

"It[Stargate UK] was hailed by the British government at the time as a boost for its own ambitions to make the country a world leader in AI." How does having an AI heat farm in the UK help with that? It's still owned and controlled by a US entity. Or is "being a leader" synonymous with "being a customer?"

No no, you see, for a government 'leading in AI' is just spending the most money on it.

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Post by BoggleOhYeah »

phyrex wrote: post #16
avazhi wrote: post #8

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> Not sure I’ve ever seen a real life business man go from boyking god emperor to clearly incompetent scam artist quite like Mr Altman Elon Musk?!

The guy that almost destroyed PayPal because he was obsessed with re-writing their entire stack for Windows instead of addressing fraud?
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