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The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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> Unavailable Due to the UK Online Safety Act NSFW blog content on HN? Really?

Woah you can't see this in the UK? Without age verification? Update: there's a section called "Pornography". It does not contain pornography.

It's not blocked By the UK, he's put a country filter on it Like all the US sites that decided to block.the EU over gdpr because turning off tracking was too much effort

Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woah you can't see this in the UK? Without age verification? Update: there's a section called "Pornography". It does not contain pornography.

It's not blocked By the UK, he's put a country filter on it Like all the US sites that decided to block.the EU over gdpr because turning off tracking was too much effort

Work fine in Spain, so lets not jump on the all to typical EU-made-the-internet-suck bandwagon all too quickly. Seems this is a UK problem. But what do I know, I actually read the error message.

Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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Best line:

> I am concerned that ML systems could ruin our lives without realizing anything at all.

It's hard to say it's not actively happening. And we don't even know it, don't realize it? don't care?

(Claude Code got mandated at my work this week. Like literally engineers must use CC.)

Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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Our collective learned helplessness in the face of being bombarded with advertising, propaganda and outright lies is just astonishing to me. Not an article about fighting back, or doing anything, just the resignation of a follower.

reminds me of the college scene in the movie Tomorrowland where all the teachers going on and on about about the things that would end us and when she asked "Can we fix it?" and teacher is like "What?" "I get things are bad but what can we do?"

learned helplessness is really a problem, but personally all I have gotten is scorn and hatred for trying to make a difference/improve things that I managed/had control of. All people care about is precious number go up/ignoring the future while everyone around me is looking at me like I have two heads for not blindly following the insanity

what do we honestly do?

Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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Our collective learned helplessness in the face of being bombarded with advertising, propaganda and outright lies is just astonishing to me. Not an article about fighting back, or doing anything, just the resignation of a follower.

Ok. How do you propose one fights back? Do you really viscerally understand what it is you are fighting against?

Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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Best line: > I am concerned that ML systems could ruin our lives without realizing anything at all. It's hard to say it's not actively happening. And we don't even know it, don't realize it? don't care? (Claude Code got mandated at my work this week. Like literally engineers must use CC.)

> (Claude Code got mandated at my work this week. Like literally engineers must use CC.)

I'm taking a break from this industry until the madness blows over. I cannot even, anymore.

Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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> I can think of a few good myths for today’s “AI”. Searle’s Chinese room comes to mind, as does Chalmers’ philosophical zombie. Peter Watts’ Blindsight draws on these concepts to ask what happens when humans come into contact with unconscious intelligence—I think the closest analogue for LLM behavior might be Blindsight’s Rorschach.

LLM's remind me of sprites, pixies, and the like, who are situationally helpful but require constant supervision. We're like modern magicians who learned how to summon these sorts of spirits and bind them -- imperfectly -- to our will. But their perception of truth and reality is "through the looking glass" relative to our own. They aren't lying, from their own frame of reference, even though what they say is untrue relative to ours.

Re: The Future of Everything Is Lies, I Guess: Part 3 – Culture

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Best line: > I am concerned that ML systems could ruin our lives without realizing anything at all. It's hard to say it's not actively happening. And we don't even know it, don't realize it? don't care? (Claude Code got mandated at my work this week. Like literally engineers must use CC.)

> (Claude Code got mandated at my work this week. Like literally engineers must use CC.) I'm taking a break from this industry until the madness blows over. I cannot even, anymore.

With the current direction of this industry, I fear you will come back to something that is both unrecognisable and terrifying.
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