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Tesla reportedly developing new smaller, cheaper EV after killing Model 2

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Re: Tesla reportedly developing new smaller, cheaper EV after killing Model 2

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It's a shame what happened to this company. I used to really want a Tesla, but now the brand signifies your support for Musk/DOGE, they killed half their lineup, and they keep mentioning that cars aren't the future as they aim for driverless taxis and robots.

At least they opened the supercharger network. My mom picked up a Cadillac Optiq and even with her being on the other side of the country she was able to seamlessly transition to an EV.

Re: Tesla reportedly developing new smaller, cheaper EV after killing Model 2

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post #4

It's a shame what happened to this company. I used to really want a Tesla, but now the brand signifies your support for Musk/DOGE, they killed half their lineup, and they keep mentioning that cars aren't the future as they aim for driverless taxis and robots. At least they opened the supercharger network. My mom picked up a Cadillac Optiq and even with her being on the other side of the country she was able to seamle…

I was able to drive across the US in the winter in an Ioniq 6 without using Tesla chargers. All but a couple were 350V, WY was the worst state (NY->WA), battery conditioning had charges ~200V for the first phase until charge levels became the dominant factor.

Ionna is 8 automakers building an alternative network

https://www.ionna.com/founding-partners/

Hyundai has their EV platform which has been 800V for a couple of years, future proof for the lifetime of the car considering how slow EV rollout is in the US...

Re: Tesla reportedly developing new smaller, cheaper EV after killing Model 2

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post #4

It's a shame what happened to this company. I used to really want a Tesla, but now the brand signifies your support for Musk/DOGE, they killed half their lineup, and they keep mentioning that cars aren't the future as they aim for driverless taxis and robots. At least they opened the supercharger network. My mom picked up a Cadillac Optiq and even with her being on the other side of the country she was able to seamle…

It'll be a case study in years to come.

Dually turning the brand toxic to your core customers, and having a bonfire of a strategy around products.

Re: Tesla reportedly developing new smaller, cheaper EV after killing Model 2

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Yeah … vapoware like the roadster.

I wouldn't be too shocked if they're real. They aren't going to be making humanoid robots that actually are useful and don't price 99% of people out of buying them and they have to come out with something new eventually.

And they can copy a lot of features from the better, cheaper chinese cars and just sell them for 3x as much in the american market because they have no competition here and the chinese are barred from selling their cars here.

Still, even if the are real it doesn't mean their company should be valued at 21x Ford's value, or even 1x Ford's.

Re: Tesla reportedly developing new smaller, cheaper EV after killing Model 2

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My impression as a driver-in-training is that people are too complacent and forget they are handling a machine that could at any moment kill and maim you, your loved ones and random innocent bystanders. I wish we all were more responsible about it, and I hate the Tesla philosophy of going the opposite way (the touchscreen, the sorta there but not really autopilot, etc)

Re: Tesla reportedly developing new smaller, cheaper EV after killing Model 2

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post #4

It's a shame what happened to this company. I used to really want a Tesla, but now the brand signifies your support for Musk/DOGE, they killed half their lineup, and they keep mentioning that cars aren't the future as they aim for driverless taxis and robots. At least they opened the supercharger network. My mom picked up a Cadillac Optiq and even with her being on the other side of the country she was able to seamle…

I was able to drive across the US in the winter in an Ioniq 6 without using Tesla chargers. All but a couple were 350V, WY was the worst state (NY->WA), battery conditioning had charges ~200V for the first phase until charge levels became the dominant factor. Ionna is 8 automakers building an alternative network https://www.ionna.com/founding-partners/ Hyundai has their EV platform which has been 800V for a couple of…

> All but a couple were 350V, WY was the worst state (NY->WA), battery conditioning had charges ~200V for the first phase until charge levels became the dominant factor.

Sorry but what? I can maybe understand “V” instead of “kW” (why?), but what does the second part mean?

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