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Post by Gare »

mindslight wrote: post #166
kushalpandya wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That too would very likely be seen as deeply political.

After reading about Wayland for 10 (?) years and thinking it was some huge deal, I finally took the leap as I was redoing my window manager anyway and it was quite easy (at least on NixOS). Heck virt-viewer (one of my main apps) is still running under Xwayland because the performance seems better.

10 years ago Wayland was in much worse state. It started being good in the last few years, though some features are still lacking.

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Post by jerlam »

codeflo wrote: post #116

Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windowing system).

Whenever I see X used, I wonder if the author will return to replace the variable with the actual name.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by reg_dunlop »

SecretDreams wrote: post #158
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #135

Astounds me that anyone is still using that platform after seeing how Musk treated the engineers when he took over.

You'd be surprised how easy it is for people to compartmentalize their principles. Many do it day to day every time they purchase something online that was probably made using less than ideal labour practices. Still, I'd advocate to leave social media in general. And certainly to get off twitter.

Hmm, I'd argue what you call "compartmentalize their principles" is in fact, NOT having principles.

Correct me if I'm wrong: I'm asserting that having a principle is an inalienable belief that actually guides behavior, not selectively applies to behavior.

Though generally: yes, I agree: get off twitter, and I'd go a step further and say..minimize all social media involvement.

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Post by holmesworcester »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #212
holmesworcester wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I think there are better things to focus on about Elon Musk, like his role in getting Trump elected, the misinfo tweets he reposts with "Exactly" and "Concerning" (where the top community note trivially debunks the tweet -- he doesn't care whether it's real), making a stink about the Epstein files until he was cool with Trump again, promoting right-wing slop like Gunther Eagleman, changing Twitter in general like how…

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Post by bakugo »

blurbleblurble wrote: post #152

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Posts about US politics that have nothing to do with technology and are otherwise uninteresting get flagged because HN is not the place for that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics

If you just want to talk about how much you hate the current US administration with other people who also spend all their time talking about how much they hate the current US administration, there are much better places for that, such as r/politics.

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Post by bluebarbet »

davidw wrote: post #118

My grandparents were pretty WASPy, conservative people who lived in northern Idaho. And they hated the white supremacist/neonazi groups up there with a burning passion. They were of an age to remember people going off to fight in Germany and Asia against that kind of ideology. They would have been absolutely appalled and ashamed to see a business leader throwing those salutes and backing it up with talk of a "white h…

But since when did using a business's product come to require sharing (or not sharing) political views with the business's owner? Seems to me that this is what has changed.

PS. It's amazing to me, and worrying, the anger and vituperation this position is provoking. It was once almost consensus. To take the obvious parallel, buying a newspaper did not imply agreement with the reactionary press baron who owned it.

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Post by lux-lux-lux »

rockskon wrote: post #245
pjc50 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reach and impressions on Twitter are fake though, and posts containing links are suppressed. (Of course the EFF are ideological, that's their entire purpose!)

Sometimes it's not just about quantity. Not all impressions are equal. And like it or not - Twitter is still the preferred communication platform of quite a few influential people.

Interactions on X are notoriously low-quality and botted to hell, so “not all impressions are equal” might not be a great point to push here.

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Post by helaoban »

>Our presence on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok is not an endorsement [...] We stay because the people on those platforms deserve access to information, too. We stay because some of our most-read posts are the ones criticizing the very platform we're posting on. We stay because the fewer steps between you and the resources you need to protect yourself, the better.

Does this not apply to X users?

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by satvikpendem »

lux-lux-lux wrote: post #220
bakugo wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The fact that their Threads account[0] is still active (remember that site? yeah, me neither, I had forgotten it existed until I saw it linked on eff.org's socials page) makes it clear that the opening statement about "the numbers not working out" is deceptive. You have to scroll down a bit further to find their real reason for preferring those sites: > people of color, queer folks, activists, and organizers…

You’re a little behind the times, mate. Threads has more daily active users than X and is growing quickly vs. the latter’s cratering usage rates. Demographics trend younger, too.

DAU for Threads is misleading, Meta seems to count impressions in Instagram where Threads sections sometimes show up. I personally know no one who uses Threads.
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