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Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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Along these lines: I really like the 'Climate Reanalyzer' project by the Climate Change Institute at the University of Maine [1]. There's so much good stuff there if you click around a bit; you can create custom plots for the surface temperature of different regions for example[2], which quickly shows you that Western Europe has actually warmed a lot more than the global average, and we're closer to +2°C already in t…

https://climatereanalyzer.org/research_tools/monthly_tseries...

What changed in 1979?

Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe there are still so-called intellegent people coming out with this crap. 1985 sure. Maybe 2000 But now?

I'll give you 2 reasons. a) published data tends to see corrections from sensors and methodology which take several years to work out the fine details. (This isn't an attack this is science) Which means always take yesterday's numbers with more scepticism than 2yr ago. (This is making no statement of any data you're looking at or any trend you claim to see) b) a field dominated by modelling needs data to back it up,…

I doubt it has anything to do with data-quality, I'd be surprised if even 10% of climate denialists have studied the numbers. Remember >20% of US citizens are still creationists, a lot of people aren't emotionally ready to believe scary things, and maybe they never will be.

Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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This looks cool but it's missing a clear legend on the default view to help the viewer understand what they're looking at.

It's not immediately clear if it's just absolute temperatures or relative temperatures or what. You have to look at the color scale to notice that it's from -5 to +5. But relative to what? Over what timescale? Is it a moving average?

I guess I could dig into the data link to figure it out but most people aren't going to do that.

Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe there are still so-called intellegent people coming out with this crap. 1985 sure. Maybe 2000 But now?

I'll give you 2 reasons. a) published data tends to see corrections from sensors and methodology which take several years to work out the fine details. (This isn't an attack this is science) Which means always take yesterday's numbers with more scepticism than 2yr ago. (This is making no statement of any data you're looking at or any trend you claim to see) b) a field dominated by modelling needs data to back it up,…

No, most of these people consciously or otherwise, just want/need to be contrarians. Look at flat Earthers. There is no way any sane person would say the earth is flat.

Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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post #24
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll give you 2 reasons. a) published data tends to see corrections from sensors and methodology which take several years to work out the fine details. (This isn't an attack this is science) Which means always take yesterday's numbers with more scepticism than 2yr ago. (This is making no statement of any data you're looking at or any trend you claim to see) b) a field dominated by modelling needs data to back it up,…

I doubt it has anything to do with data-quality, I'd be surprised if even 10% of climate denialists have studied the numbers. Remember >20% of US citizens are still creationists, a lot of people aren't emotionally ready to believe scary things, and maybe they never will be.

And believing the world ending as in "the day after tomorrow" was the "still mask wearing" of the 2010s. Fear.

Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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This is all terrifying data.

Made worse that there's a significant number of people who refuse to believe it, and for all the wrong reasons at that.

Global warming doesn't exist.

If it does, it's not that bad.

If it gets bad, it's not a big deal in reality.

If it becomes a big deal, it was not humanity's fault.

And if it was humanity's fault, at least the planet was saved from a global dictatorship run by scientists.

Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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post #8

Along these lines: I really like the 'Climate Reanalyzer' project by the Climate Change Institute at the University of Maine [1]. There's so much good stuff there if you click around a bit; you can create custom plots for the surface temperature of different regions for example[2], which quickly shows you that Western Europe has actually warmed a lot more than the global average, and we're closer to +2°C already in t…

https://climatereanalyzer.org/research_tools/monthly_tseries... What changed in 1979?

I don't know but it cooencideds with the start of satellite monitoring.

Half a century of satellite remote sensing of sea-surface temperature (2019) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S003442571...

I haven't looked but there will probably be references somewhere explaining the dat sources.

Re: Show HN: 41 years sea surface temperature anomalies

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post #28
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Made worse that there's a significant number of people who refuse to believe it, and for all the wrong reasons at that.

Global warming doesn't exist. If it does, it's not that bad. If it gets bad, it's not a big deal in reality. If it becomes a big deal, it was not humanity's fault. And if it was humanity's fault, at least the planet was saved from a global dictatorship run by scientists.

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