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Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? My quest to unmask Bitcoin's creator

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Post by pgalvin »

Theodores wrote: post #238
Lerc wrote: post #112

I found this amusing. >P.G.P., a free encryption program used by antinuclear activists and human rights groups to shield their files and emails from government surveillance. I find it fascinating to see how the users of a program change, based on how a reporter wants to build or diminish. At least it's going in a positive direction today.

PGP was different then. In the 90s the internet was unencrypted and the only people using PGP were those that had a reasonable need for it. However, there were a couple of big problems that the armchair historian would not be aware of. First off, communicating with PGP was hard. Imagine you are based in London and you want to publish something controversial without getting taken to court. You could email someone in N…

> However, they just change their original message, maybe to remove a typo, change the date or add a friendly note. Then the three letter agency does a glorified 'diff' and they are subsequently in on the chat.

Could you expand on this please?

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

irishcoffee wrote: post #248
cloche wrote: post #128

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I haven't read the article yet but I remember this as well. IIRC Adam went the route of more towards a centralized group controlling Bitcoin's future during the BTC/BCH debates/fork. It seemed against what Satoshi would have pushed for. Plus Adam's group seemed like a catalyst for Gavin stepping back as a result of the political in-fighting and mud-slinging. It would be a huge surprise if Satoshi were Adam. Personall…

I think Back reacts the way he does when being asked if he is the creator of BTC is that he knows it was Finney, and the key is gone.

It can’t be Finney because there was an entire send reply send reply sequence that was while Finney was in a marathon race between Satoshi and others which could not have been scripted.

The case for Jack Dorsey is much stronger than the Back claim.

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Post by lateforwork »

malbs wrote: post #181

When did Satoshi make an appearance in 2015? I couldn't find the spot in the article where the author cites it. Everywhere I've read it states his last interactions were 2010, and his wallet hasn't been touched since then either. Based on everything I've read, I think Satoshi is Len Sassaman

Here it is:

https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/6EC9DDF352DC4838AE9B088AB37...

Satoshi came to Adam's rescue when it seemed like Adam is going to fail to prevent the fork.

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

jobs_throwaway wrote: post #217
ploum wrote: post #107

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My theory is that Satoshi is a persona created by Adam Back and Hal Finney. They probably devised something where both needed to agree and sign something for Satoshi to act. This also allowed them to say "I’m not Satoshi Nakamoto". They also probably ensured that anything that belongs to Satoshi required both of them. The death of Hal Finney ensure that Satoshi died definitely. But they may have "killed" him before b…

This may be the most convincing theory I've heard. I don't believe any live human being has the wherewithal to not use any of the $100B+ in the Satoshi wallets, which has led me to believe it was Hal Finney. Back and Finney both being in on it would explain some of the email timing as well

What if Satoshi is already a billionaire?

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Post by hatthew »

Aboutplants wrote: post #61
Jackpillar wrote: post #31

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It was the CIA and anyone who aren't starry eyed tech dorks has known this forever

Occam's razor in this case is most likely true

Isn't occam's razor that he's just some guy who doesn't like being famous

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

eddiewithzato wrote: post #232
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #44

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What if he is already very wealthy and very famous … and knows there is no upside for Bitcoin if they disclose it.

Like a certain Adam Back

Or Jack Dorsey.

https://x.com/financeguy74/status/1890850549035110558

https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/1891852538376487327

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Post by CamperBob2 »

eddiewithzato wrote: post #228
CamperBob2 wrote: post #140

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Then again, if I weren't Satoshi, but people suspected that I was, I'd be willing to do just about anything to prove that it's not me. No one in their right mind would want that kind of target on their back. Satoshi is either dead, or he lost his keys and probably wishes he were.

it’s simply that Back has nothing to gain to claim to be Satoshi. It would make bitcoin a lot more volatile. He even said just now > I also don't know who satoshi is, and i think it is good for bitcoin that this is the case, as it helps bitcoin be viewed a new asset class, the mathematically scarce digital commodity. That’s as close to admitting it as you can get

Point being, he has a lot to lose if people think he IS Satoshi.

I would be coughing up those email headers if I were him. Or forging some, if necessary.

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Post by benlivengood »

wjessup wrote: post #215
fny wrote: post #164

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Dihydrogen monoxide - a constituent of many known toxic substances, diseases and disease-causing agents[0] [0]: https://www.dhmo.org/

100% of people who've ever had DHMO have died. This is scientifically verified and yet nobody does anything about it.

Truly, we can eliminate the null hypothesis because only ~93% of humans who have ever lived have died. [0] [1]

[0] https://www.prb.org/news/how-many-people-have-ever-lived-on-... [1] https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

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Post by SilentM68 »

Satoshi has many contributors. In my view, he/she is not one person but many. Why, because it would take a genius with multiple skills, e.g. engineering, programming, cryptography, mathematics, financial knowledge and a lot of time, a lotta time to come up with something like this.

It is more plausible that Satoshi was a rogue AI, ET, the Illuminati or future time traveler instead of one single person :)

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