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Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? My quest to unmask Bitcoin's creator

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Post by pdntspa »

Lerc wrote: post #133
lumirth wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What struck me in particular was the fact the reporter noticed that Back had theorized how to evade stylometry. Obviously, if one of the people in question had specifically come up with ways to evade methods, you’d want to re-roll those methods to account for that. That, alongside a number of other tidbits (Back’s activity and inactivity patterns lining up with Satoshi’s appearance and disappearance, his refusal to p…

> his financial incentive to hide his identity as Satoshi under US securities law I don't think you can attribute this to financial incentive. The actual Satoshi could forfeit 90% of their BTC and still have more than they could know what to do with. At those kinds of levels I can see personal security being a higher consideration. Either way it would give no indication who might be Satoshi because all candidates wou…

For that wealth to mean anything he has to withdraw from it, and wouldn't that produce a paper trail?

Apologies if its mentioned in TFA, I only got halfway through it... the author's self-indulgence was getting to be a bit much

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Post by kinakomochidayo »

doublextremevil wrote: post #116

Satoshi supported big blocks in his writings and empowered the pro-big block Gavin when he disappeared. Adam is a well known supporter of small blocks, ultimately the "winning" side of the debate. They are not the same person.

Exactly. Adam is also very emotional when he writes, and Satoshi was nothing like it.

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Post by drdaeman »

wjessup wrote: post #215
fny wrote: post #164

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Dihydrogen monoxide - a constituent of many known toxic substances, diseases and disease-causing agents[0] [0]: https://www.dhmo.org/

100% of people who've ever had DHMO have died. This is scientifically verified and yet nobody does anything about it.

> and yet nobody does anything about it

So dismissive of all the transhumanist efforts to eradicate death!

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Post by cloche »

malbs wrote: post #181

When did Satoshi make an appearance in 2015? I couldn't find the spot in the article where the author cites it. Everywhere I've read it states his last interactions were 2010, and his wallet hasn't been touched since then either. Based on everything I've read, I think Satoshi is Len Sassaman

Search for this section:

> Then, out of the blue, Satoshi appeared on the list with an email that neatly dovetailed with Mr. Back’s position

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Post by themafia »

ghost-of-dmr wrote: post #131
themafia wrote: post #86

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I don't. It's a tool used by modern "journalism" to distract and detract from a story. If you have something reliable to report, then by all means, report it. If all you have is a "compelling narrative" then put it on the shelf and do NOT waste my time with it. If you can't manage that then publish fiction books.

You already wasted your time bringing yourself into the conversation.

Why? You've expressed no more meaningful of a position than I have. Perhaps you're confused as to the purpose of a "forum?"

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Post by cloche »

blindriver wrote: post #216

Anyone who has access to Satoshi's account is worth $100B. If Satoshi were still alive some of the BTC would have been moved at least a little but they haven't. Whoever Satoshi was is now dead.

There was no guarantee that Bitcoin would take off. It may be tough to imagine looking back in retrospect but, in another world, Bitcoin could have turned out to have been another digital currency with limited value. Many people lost their keys in the early days when Bitcoin was worthless. It's not unreasonable to think the same wouldn't have happened to Satoshi. He may have also thrown them away on purpose.

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Post by irishcoffee »

cloche wrote: post #128
doublextremevil wrote: post #116

Satoshi supported big blocks in his writings and empowered the pro-big block Gavin when he disappeared. Adam is a well known supporter of small blocks, ultimately the "winning" side of the debate. They are not the same person.

I haven't read the article yet but I remember this as well. IIRC Adam went the route of more towards a centralized group controlling Bitcoin's future during the BTC/BCH debates/fork. It seemed against what Satoshi would have pushed for. Plus Adam's group seemed like a catalyst for Gavin stepping back as a result of the political in-fighting and mud-slinging. It would be a huge surprise if Satoshi were Adam. Personall…

I think Back reacts the way he does when being asked if he is the creator of BTC is that he knows it was Finney, and the key is gone.

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Post by lateforwork »

doublextremevil wrote: post #116

Satoshi supported big blocks in his writings and empowered the pro-big block Gavin when he disappeared. Adam is a well known supporter of small blocks, ultimately the "winning" side of the debate. They are not the same person.

Did you miss the part where Satoshi came to Adam's rescue, to thwart big blocks?

https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/6EC9DDF352DC4838AE9B088AB37...

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Post by lovecg »

FireBeyond wrote: post #240
dotancohen wrote: post #210

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> Pretty compelling story. Not necessarily for its revelations, but for the fact that John Carreyrou and the NYT decided to publish it at all. When is the line crossed from journalism into doxxing? Whoever created Bitcoin has a legitimate safety reason to stay anonymous. Anyone suspected of holding that much wealth becomes a target - as does their family.

Except Satoshi has been "anonymous" and those Bitcoin have never moved, even when the sum total of that wallet might have been $10,000 or so. And if Satoshi's holdings now exceed $1B, well, for better or worse, multiple courts have ruled that billionaires are inherently public figures, because of their "outsized effect on public discourse".

It would be hilarious if he intentionally or accidentally lost the key, and has been trying to cash out through those Bitcoin adjacent business ventures ever since.
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