Claude Managed Agents Overview
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Claude Managed Agents Overview
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#3Anthropic would be better off letting the community do this. Their harness sucks. Great scientists but not the best app developers. I suspect they just dont want to relinquish control of anything because they think the world cant be trusted with AI, we can only be trusted to pay them.
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#4Anthropic would be better off letting the community do this. Their harness sucks. Great scientists but not the best app developers. I suspect they just dont want to relinquish control of anything because they think the world cant be trusted with AI, we can only be trusted to pay them.
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Anthropic made the most popular harness for developers.
Anthropic made the most popular desktop tool for AI automation.
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#5Anthropic would be better off letting the community do this. Their harness sucks. Great scientists but not the best app developers. I suspect they just dont want to relinquish control of anything because they think the world cant be trusted with AI, we can only be trusted to pay them.
? Anthropic made the most popular harness for developers. Anthropic made the most popular desktop tool for AI automation.
Not sure popularity necessarily suggests it's good, but possibly just what people have most heard of or is easiest to setup with. This is going to be even more true now that Claude subscriptions are going to be essentially vendor locked.
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#6Anthropic would be better off letting the community do this. Their harness sucks. Great scientists but not the best app developers. I suspect they just dont want to relinquish control of anything because they think the world cant be trusted with AI, we can only be trusted to pay them.
Could you go into more details about why their "harness sucks?" This feels like a shared conclusion, but I've used several and theirs is better than many.
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#7Anthropic would be better off letting the community do this. Their harness sucks. Great scientists but not the best app developers. I suspect they just dont want to relinquish control of anything because they think the world cant be trusted with AI, we can only be trusted to pay them.
Could you go into more details about why their "harness sucks?" This feels like a shared conclusion, but I've used several and theirs is better than many.
I generally agree that the harness isn't good, but it works and gets the job done and that seems to be the singular goal of the top 4 or 5 companies building them.
We saw what Claude Code looks like inside, and it's objectively bad-to-mediocre work, but the takeaway seemed to be 'yeah but it works and they've got crazy revenue'.
That's where we're at. The harness is kind of buggy. The LLM still wanders and cycles in it sometimes. It's a monolithic LLM herding machine. The underlying model is awesome and the harness works well enough to make it super effective.
We can do so much better but we could also do worse. It's a turbulent time. I'm not super pleased with it all the time, but it's hard to criticize in many ways. They're doing a good job under the circumstances.
I see it kind of like they're at war. If they slow down to perfect anything, they will begin to lose battles, and they will lose ground. It's a highly contentious space. The harness isn't as good as it could be under better circumstances, but it's arguably a necessary trade off Anthropic needs to make.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you go into more details about why their "harness sucks?" This feels like a shared conclusion, but I've used several and theirs is better than many.
I generally agree that the harness isn't good, but it works and gets the job done and that seems to be the singular goal of the top 4 or 5 companies building them. We saw what Claude Code looks like inside, and it's objectively bad-to-mediocre work, but the takeaway seemed to be 'yeah but it works and they've got crazy revenue'. That's where we're at. The harness is kind of buggy. The LLM still wanders and cycles in…
> We saw what Claude Code looks like inside, and it's objectively bad-to-mediocre work
Based on this, are there any open source harnesses that have objectively good-to-excellent work in their code?
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you go into more details about why their "harness sucks?" This feels like a shared conclusion, but I've used several and theirs is better than many.
I generally agree that the harness isn't good, but it works and gets the job done and that seems to be the singular goal of the top 4 or 5 companies building them. We saw what Claude Code looks like inside, and it's objectively bad-to-mediocre work, but the takeaway seemed to be 'yeah but it works and they've got crazy revenue'. That's where we're at. The harness is kind of buggy. The LLM still wanders and cycles in…
> We saw what Claude Code looks like inside, and it's objectively bad-to-mediocre
Do you have an example to contrast by what measure is good besides your word?
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#10It makes sense that anthropic is cranking out these products trying to find and maintain a foothold in the market.
But part of me just wishes they would go back to developing and refining an excellent and user-friendly harness.
I can't imagine what the long term support is for the dozens of products they release every three months.
Meanwhile, they're shipping a more and more buggy and Byzantine Claude code with a million switches and tons of ways to use it wrong.
The subscription play really does feel like a bait and switch lock-in: "we can focus less on the harness because people with subscriptions need to use it, and focus on growth."
Interested to see if this works out for them.