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Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by megous »

ktallett wrote: post #27
cramsession wrote: post #20

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Not the first time they couldn't keep to a ceasefire for even a day, let alone 24 hours. Exactly the same as what happened with Palestine last year as well.

Last year (March 18) Israel killed 174 children and 412 people in total in a day when violating a Jan 19 ceasefire to restart the genocide. Then proceeded to starve hundreds to death and severely compromise health of tens of thousands during the following months, while killing 1000s of aid seekers, that they forced into killing fields under starvation, like this:

https://t.me/hamza20300/375017

After this, they'll certainly not stop at bombing a few cities, or leveling villages today, that they can get away with because of western support.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by roughly »

stavros wrote: post #12

I'm not really very up to speed on this, can someone explain how the strait is actually closed? Are the Iranians threatening to sink any ships that pass by, or what? How come any ships don't turn their transponders off and try to make a run for it?

> How come any ships don't turn their transponders off and try to make a run for it?

Because the cost of failure is death and the crew aren’t going to risk it, and the other cost of failure is a couple hundred million dollars in ship and cargo and the insurance companies aren’t going to risk it either. This is like asking why your DoorDash driver wouldn’t just try to run the police blockade to get you your burrito.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by analog31 »

ggm wrote: post #36
dylan604 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This would be ruinously expensive. I bet it could have been done with the money spent on the "war"

Yes, but in circumstances where no war is in the offing, digging a giant hole next to 50km of open water begs questions. It would be impossible to get "it's a hedge against the future" over the line. The same to a lesser extent applies to pipes. You could construct pipes for gas, for some of the heavier oils and crude (what I read suggests pumping crude long distance is painful, it has to be down-mixed with lighter s…

We could have spent the money on windmills without raising any suspicions.

On the other hand, fertilizer is fluid -- either ammonia or ureal ammonium nitrate.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by cramsession »

mandeepj wrote: post #31
ktallett wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the first time they couldn't keep to a ceasefire for even a day, let alone 24 hours. Exactly the same as what happened with Palestine last year as well.

> Not the first time they couldn't keep to a ceasefire for even a day, They are obsessed with wars, murders, and chaos

Yes, and they're actively monitoring this site to flag and bulk downvote anything that sheds light on their crimes (like this whole thread).

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by sethops1 »

einpoklum wrote: post #37

Iran (and various news sources) have claimed that the straights are not now, and in fact never have been, closed - provided the relevant ship was not involved/linked to the attacks on Iran, and that it coordinated with Iranian authorities. So, it could be that: * Iran is lying and that has not actually been an option. * A lot of the ships which would otherwise have transitioned are involved with the war somehow. * Th…

No need for baseless speculation, it's well known that no insurance company is willing to insure transit through the straight while it's an active war zone.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by anonfunction »

Klonoar wrote: post #40
anonfunction wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their APIs are protected by cloudflare, I didn't want to circumvent that. Also I dont really want to make a chrome extension or have a browster tab open, if that's what you meant? I've already made a cron style agent framework[1] so that's what I'd probably reach for since they can actually open the browser and inspect the network traffic to grab the json. 1. https://botctl.dev/

How is doing it via agent not circumventing it?

I think I was just spit-balling what would be possible, rather than what I intend to do. As mentioned elsewhere I'm hoping to get an API key from one the data providers, I even reached out to the api behind marinetraffic.com, https://www.kpler.com/product/maritime/data-services to see if they would sponsor the project.

This was just something I built on a whim, but I appreciate your comment and took it to heart!

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by spaghetdefects »

It was mentioned in this thread and quickly flagged, but Israel broke the ceasefire today by attacking civilians in Lebanon so Iran closed the straight. It was open prior to the ceasefire violation.

France's Macron actually just commented on this: https://x.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/2041990505760772551

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by megous »

stavros wrote: post #12

I'm not really very up to speed on this, can someone explain how the strait is actually closed? Are the Iranians threatening to sink any ships that pass by, or what? How come any ships don't turn their transponders off and try to make a run for it?

I'm sure tankers are huge and show up easily on naval radars.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by goodluckchuck »

I think there’s difference between A) whether ships are traversing the straight, and B) whether the straight is open / closed / could be traversed.

It’s very well possible that the straight is safe, but the vessels are unnecessarily cautious.

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