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Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by anonfunction »

bl4ckneon wrote: post #7

Very cool! I love one off intresting sites like this. Thanks for building it and talking a little bit about where the data comes from etc. On the note of Ai agent getting the data for you, could you not just build a chrome extention that intercepts/read the api response and then uploads it to whatever ingest endpoint you have? You could probably just call their api end points they use on the page as well but not sure…

Their APIs are protected by cloudflare, I didn't want to circumvent that. Also I dont really want to make a chrome extension or have a browster tab open, if that's what you meant? I've already made a cron style agent framework[1] so that's what I'd probably reach for since they can actually open the browser and inspect the network traffic to grab the json.

1. https://botctl.dev/

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by stavros »

I'm not really very up to speed on this, can someone explain how the strait is actually closed? Are the Iranians threatening to sink any ships that pass by, or what? How come any ships don't turn their transponders off and try to make a run for it?

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by luxuryballs »

So apparently the reason they don’t just go for it is due to insurance. Because Iran technically isn’t suppose to just sink a civilian vessel, but the risk is there so the ships are ordered by the owner/stakeholder not to go due to the insurance coverage. Kind of interesting, they could technically call Iran’s bluff but it would mean, they violate the insurance contract and lose coverage? I’m just reading about this so probably not the full picture.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by alerter »

I work for a consultancy that does vessel tracking as one of its main products, and yeah it's expensive! afaik they have remote teams with sensors at key points and a bunch of people using AI/software to manage things like GPS spoofing. So it's all pretty guarded proprietary stuff.

Great bit of topical datavis here.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by MattDamonSpace »

stavros wrote: post #12

I'm not really very up to speed on this, can someone explain how the strait is actually closed? Are the Iranians threatening to sink any ships that pass by, or what? How come any ships don't turn their transponders off and try to make a run for it?

They’ll sink ships or cause damage with low cost drones or missles

The strait isn’t wide enough, Iran can see any ships attempting

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by tokai »

luxuryballs wrote: post #13

So apparently the reason they don’t just go for it is due to insurance. Because Iran technically isn’t suppose to just sink a civilian vessel, but the risk is there so the ships are ordered by the owner/stakeholder not to go due to the insurance coverage. Kind of interesting, they could technically call Iran’s bluff but it would mean, they violate the insurance contract and lose coverage? I’m just reading about this…

No insurance has been fixed for a while now. Its as simple as shipowners not wanting to lose their boats and their future earnings potential.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by luxuryballs »

stavros wrote: post #12

I'm not really very up to speed on this, can someone explain how the strait is actually closed? Are the Iranians threatening to sink any ships that pass by, or what? How come any ships don't turn their transponders off and try to make a run for it?

From what I was reading Iran likely wouldn’t sink a civilian vessel but because the risk is there due to the threat they don’t do it because it would violate the contact for their maritime insurance, meaning even if you had a brave crew and orders to go, you lose all your insurance coverage against the loss if something goes wrong.

Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?

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Post by MiSeRyDeee »

This will be inherently inaccurate because data was based on public AIS signal, but ships are turning off their AIS to avoid detection.

> In an attempt to evade detection, many ships appear to be deliberately switching off their tracking system - known as AIS (Automatic Identification System). https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4geg0eeyjeo

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