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Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by wombat-man »

kstrauser wrote: post #13

I love it. I’m willing to pay for streaming sports services, to a point, but all of them are freaking insane. For example, my wife and I like watching baseball. So let’s do the right thing and pay for it, right? LOL, as if that were possible. For $120[0] we can watch the Giants games, or for $220, all games… but subject to blackout. For $120, we can’t actually watch home games. We’d have to pay for a separate streami…

for NFL it hugely depends on whether you want to follow the local team. So far, if you're in the local market the NFL generally shows the games on broadcast for free, and that you can get to with an antenna and a TV card depending on where you are.

MLB, I haven't tried for a few years but I could watch any out of market game on mlb.tv, but not any that involved the local team, so it was the opposite. For that there was a special regional sports channel that I'd have to subscribe to. No way to do it directly with the network, I'd have to get satellite or something.

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by kstrauser »

wombat-man wrote: post #21
kstrauser wrote: post #13

I love it. I’m willing to pay for streaming sports services, to a point, but all of them are freaking insane. For example, my wife and I like watching baseball. So let’s do the right thing and pay for it, right? LOL, as if that were possible. For $120[0] we can watch the Giants games, or for $220, all games… but subject to blackout. For $120, we can’t actually watch home games. We’d have to pay for a separate streami…

for NFL it hugely depends on whether you want to follow the local team. So far, if you're in the local market the NFL generally shows the games on broadcast for free, and that you can get to with an antenna and a TV card depending on where you are. MLB, I haven't tried for a few years but I could watch any out of market game on mlb.tv, but not any that involved the local team, so it was the opposite. For that there w…

> for NFL it hugely depends on whether you want to follow the local team.

That's the situation for probably 95% of viewers, though. Others might want to watch games from where they grew up, but most people typically follow the local teams. We don't even have a great way to get an antenna feed into our TV, and that also means we have one way to watch everything except local games, and another, worse way to watch them (for example, by not having a way to pause them).

I get why the streaming apps don't show local games from their business POV, but as a potential subscriber, that's a them-problem, not a me-problem. There's no way I'm paying that much money without being able to watch the home games.

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by evulhotdog »

js2 wrote: post #18

This works with Jellyfin because it supports m3u: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/live-tv/setup-guide... Channels DVR also supports m3u: https://getchannels.com/docs/channels-dvr-server/how-to/cust... The README mentions Plex and Emby, but those don't support m3u, so you need to use a proxy which makes an m3u source appear like a local tuner such as: https://github.com/Threadfin/Threadfin https://github.com/…

Add Dispatcharr to the list!

https://github.com/Dispatcharr/Dispatcharr

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by wombat-man »

kstrauser wrote: post #22
wombat-man wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for NFL it hugely depends on whether you want to follow the local team. So far, if you're in the local market the NFL generally shows the games on broadcast for free, and that you can get to with an antenna and a TV card depending on where you are. MLB, I haven't tried for a few years but I could watch any out of market game on mlb.tv, but not any that involved the local team, so it was the opposite. For that there w…

> for NFL it hugely depends on whether you want to follow the local team. That's the situation for probably 95% of viewers, though. Others might want to watch games from where they grew up, but most people typically follow the local teams. We don't even have a great way to get an antenna feed into our TV, and that also means we have one way to watch everything except local games, and another, worse way to watch them…

Not sure which streaming apps you're referring to. If you only care about the local team, getting a TV streaming option like Youtube TV, sling or hulu tv should work. Probably some I'm not thinking of. As long as they get the main networks, that should cover it. Even when they do a Prime exclusive or MNF(espn) game, they'll show it on the local affiliate for local markets. At least that's the way it has always worked, NFL may change it in the future. The real pain is if you want to follow an out of market team. Just for starters you need NFL Sunday ticket which is not cheap these days.

If you're cool waiting a day to watch the games, nfl plus has everything with commercials cut.

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by HWR_14 »

kstrauser wrote: post #13

I love it. I’m willing to pay for streaming sports services, to a point, but all of them are freaking insane. For example, my wife and I like watching baseball. So let’s do the right thing and pay for it, right? LOL, as if that were possible. For $120[0] we can watch the Giants games, or for $220, all games… but subject to blackout. For $120, we can’t actually watch home games. We’d have to pay for a separate streami…

I believe for $120 you can watch sold out home games. Or like you said "we can’t actually watch home games"

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by kstrauser »

wombat-man wrote: post #24
kstrauser wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> for NFL it hugely depends on whether you want to follow the local team. That's the situation for probably 95% of viewers, though. Others might want to watch games from where they grew up, but most people typically follow the local teams. We don't even have a great way to get an antenna feed into our TV, and that also means we have one way to watch everything except local games, and another, worse way to watch them…

Not sure which streaming apps you're referring to. If you only care about the local team, getting a TV streaming option like Youtube TV, sling or hulu tv should work. Probably some I'm not thinking of. As long as they get the main networks, that should cover it. Even when they do a Prime exclusive or MNF(espn) game, they'll show it on the local affiliate for local markets. At least that's the way it has always worked…

NFL is egregiously bad here. They split exclusives among multiple streaming services, so you need to subscribe to (IIRC) at least Netflix and Amazon Prime in addition to your TV service if you want to see everything.

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by rhcom2 »

kstrauser wrote: post #13

I love it. I’m willing to pay for streaming sports services, to a point, but all of them are freaking insane. For example, my wife and I like watching baseball. So let’s do the right thing and pay for it, right? LOL, as if that were possible. For $120[0] we can watch the Giants games, or for $220, all games… but subject to blackout. For $120, we can’t actually watch home games. We’d have to pay for a separate streami…

NHL is similarly frustrating. I pay for ESPN but some games are on TNT, NHL Network, or a broadcast channel. I'm not paying for two different $60 a month services so now they just don't get any of my money.

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by larntz »

kstrauser wrote: post #26
wombat-man wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure which streaming apps you're referring to. If you only care about the local team, getting a TV streaming option like Youtube TV, sling or hulu tv should work. Probably some I'm not thinking of. As long as they get the main networks, that should cover it. Even when they do a Prime exclusive or MNF(espn) game, they'll show it on the local affiliate for local markets. At least that's the way it has always worked…

NFL is egregiously bad here. They split exclusives among multiple streaming services, so you need to subscribe to (IIRC) at least Netflix and Amazon Prime in addition to your TV service if you want to see everything.

I think a few games are only on NFL Network (not always included in the base cable subscription) also. And you'll need Peacock if you don't have cable/antenna.

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by c-hendricks »

originalvichy wrote: post #5
pruz wrote: post #3

I self-host Jellyfin on my homelab and got frustrated opening a laptop every time there was a football match just to deal with popup-infested streaming sites. The actual video underneath is just a standard HLS stream, but getting it into Jellyfin turned out to be harder than expected. Three problems: (1) the m3u8 URL is buried behind iframes and obfuscated JS, (2) tokens expire every few hours, and (3) the upstream s…

Cool implementation. Never occurred to me Jellyfin could serve as a streaming platform on its own! I’ll probably find the answer after sending this reply (may be helpful to others), but does it come with this functionality out of the box, or is any plug-in needed? How probable is it that this kind of method can be patched or obfuscated further? I assume that since the HLS stream is always at the core, it’s a matter o…

Adjacent, but back when Plex supported plugins all your plugin had to do was eventually give it a link to a video / stream and bam, you could watch the content on any device. I built a fairly popular plugin around the idea of deduplicating tv / movie listings and letting people watch now or direct download.

Re: Show HN: I pipe free sports streams into Jellyfin – no ads, just HLS

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Post by js2 »

evulhotdog wrote: post #23
js2 wrote: post #18

This works with Jellyfin because it supports m3u: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/live-tv/setup-guide... Channels DVR also supports m3u: https://getchannels.com/docs/channels-dvr-server/how-to/cust... The README mentions Plex and Emby, but those don't support m3u, so you need to use a proxy which makes an m3u source appear like a local tuner such as: https://github.com/Threadfin/Threadfin https://github.com/…

Add Dispatcharr to the list! https://github.com/Dispatcharr/Dispatcharr

Nice! Too late to edit.
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