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Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by eru »

ai_slop_hater wrote: post #39
9dev wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where you're from, but in Germany for example, there are countless situations where cyclists and pedestrians share the same space, or pedestrians can (or just do…) cross bicycle lanes. I'm a very law-abiding cyclist since witnessing a few horrible accidents, and yet I encounter situations with headphone-wearing pedestrians regularly. Often I'll ring my bell to no avail, until driving right up to them, an…

I am aware that most countries do not have dedicated roads for cyclists, but that doesn't mean that cyclists should be using sidewalks. When I go out and walk on the sidewalk, I expect to be able to just walk safely without having to think about potential riders of bicycles or other things that people ride on sidewalks.

> I am aware that most countries do not have dedicated roads for cyclists, but that doesn't mean that cyclists should be using sidewalks.

Huh? Germany has signs on same shared pavements that tell you that by law your bike needs to be on there, not on the road.

Are you suggesting people break the law over your preferences?

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by throwaway132448 »

tossandthrow wrote: post #49
fnands wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, it's pragmatic. It's replacing a problem you can't solve (human stupidity), with one you can (a better bell).

Human stupidity? As in allowing too much noise in the cities to the extend that people need to protect their minds?

The stupidity that makes depriving one of your senses seem like a sensible thing to do in a busy chaotic environment.

I don’t actually mind people doing that though. What is annoying is the entitled attitude that there should be no consequence for that choice, and everyone else should orbit/compensate around their lack of situational awareness.

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by kuerbel »

ai_slop_hater wrote: post #39
9dev wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where you're from, but in Germany for example, there are countless situations where cyclists and pedestrians share the same space, or pedestrians can (or just do…) cross bicycle lanes. I'm a very law-abiding cyclist since witnessing a few horrible accidents, and yet I encounter situations with headphone-wearing pedestrians regularly. Often I'll ring my bell to no avail, until driving right up to them, an…

I am aware that most countries do not have dedicated roads for cyclists, but that doesn't mean that cyclists should be using sidewalks. When I go out and walk on the sidewalk, I expect to be able to just walk safely without having to think about potential riders of bicycles or other things that people ride on sidewalks.

No he meant this: https://www.fahrradstadt-braunschweig.de/wp-content/uploads/...

Left side is for bicycles. Right side for pedestrians. It is a dedicated lane but a shared space.

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by Xelbair »

staindk wrote: post #47
yladiz wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the right problem that should be solved here?

People shouldn't really be walking around in public with ANC on. It's not safe. Not a simple problem to solve except maybe to inform people better upon buying/setting up ANC-enabled devices.

or cyclists should have their own lanes, pedestrians shouldn't walk on them - and vice versa. and if you're stuck behind someone slow just overtake them when you can.

Safe or not - it is up to individual to decide if it is worth the risk.

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by KeplerBoy »

leni536 wrote: post #11

So it's tuned to a specific frequency at 780Hz? And that defeats all/most ANC?

That's the interesting bit. Is this a known / agreed upon feature of ANC headphones or just a property of a specific iteration of let's say airpods?

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by wateralien »

laydn wrote: post #24

Next challange: Place a camera in front of the bike that scans approaching pedestrians. Calculate their head position and trajectory. Use directional speakers and focused sound beams to focus the ~780Hz sound towards the head(s) of the pedestrian(s). Now that you are not bothering the environment as much, you can increase the volume as well.

what

Re: Škoda DuoBell: A bicycle bell that penetrates noise-cancelling headphones

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Post by distances »

linzhangrun wrote: post #53

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In effect they are, even if not directly. There are requirements to stay aware of your surroundings. If you cause an accident by blocking all sounds, I totally can see insurance companies claiming this is your own responsibility and refusing to cover.
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