Imagine being able to connect two computers over the internet using sockets. WebRTC is a marvel, but I miss the whimsical days of running something on a port at home and connecting to it without thinking about NAT.
IPv6 is the only way forward
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Re: IPv6 is the only way forward
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
His point is that you're managing alright because you live in a country where your ISP can give you a public IP address. The author lives in a country where that is not possible and accesses the Internet behind layers of NAT.
What's the difference, other than port forwarding? Does NAT cause some sort of unique issue that makes existence miserable?
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#134Re: IPv6 is the only way forward
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
His point is that you're managing alright because you live in a country where your ISP can give you a public IP address. The author lives in a country where that is not possible and accesses the Internet behind layers of NAT.
What's the difference, other than port forwarding? Does NAT cause some sort of unique issue that makes existence miserable?
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hole punching, which has various forms, may or may not work. This means if you're doing something realtime, you may need to stick a server(reachable endpoint) in between it, at the very least reducing performance.
I have never seen any situation where this is not already necessary other than UPnP which already almost never works reliably. A publicly-addressable relay is already practically non-negotiable for anything over the internet.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have multiple static IPv4 addresses and they have suited me just fine for decades IPv6 is for the people (countries, continents) who did not get in early on the IPv4 address gold rush. Your take is basically "got mine, F you".
Or ... people can use the DoD/Mod and assorted other space to get their IPv4 allocations. There is a ton of unused space in IPv4. Reserved, allocated but entirely unused. Also take back some /8's from greedy companies that don't need all that space. stares at HP When I say take I mean take as in a forceful annex and a timeline.
In our exponentially growing world that wouldn't help. By the time we ran out of Class As we were allocating a new one every month. Reclaiming all the unused addresses would barely make a dent in demand.
Re: IPv6 is the only way forward
#138One of the biggest, I would assume in the current year, blockers to an IPv6 only world would be the fact that the major "cloud" vendors do not support it.
Re: IPv6 is the only way forward
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
100% this, my college had 2 /16s for no reason. The printers were all public, was a mess.
I mean having a public address doesnt mean it has to be publicly routable. Same thing applies to ipv6. I speak as someone who worked at an institute that had similar abundance of address space.
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#140I am behind cgnat but have a native ipv6 /64 at home. I've got a great fibre connection (2G5) and everything "just works". I can host on ipv6 native machines and see them from anywhere in the world that has native ipv6 access. The trouble is that 1) my employers do not have native ipv6 access; 2) neither does my mobile connection; and 3) really nor do a lot of my friends. Moreover, 4) if you browse a website from a n…
IPv6 privacy extensions exist & are enabled by default in most (if not all) operating systems today, which (this is my understanding; take it with a grain of salt) create what essentially are extra IPv6 addresses, used for outbound traffic, that aren't generated via your MAC address.