GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks • Hacker News Board

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by deminature » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:20 AM UTC

kcb wrote: post #119

dvt wrote: post #118

Every single day, three things are becoming more and more clear: (1) OpenAI & Anthropic are absolutely cooked; it's obvious they have no moat (2) Local/private inference is the future of AI (3) There's *still* no killer product yet (so get to work!)

What benefit is there to dropping $50k on GPUs to run this personally besides being a cool enthusiast project?

Intel has just released a high VRAM card which allows you to have 128GB of VRAM for $4k. The prices are dropping rapidly. The local models aren't adapted to work on this setup yet, so performance is disappointing. But highly capable local models are becoming increasingly realistic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcIWhm16ouQ

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by bitexploder » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:28 AM UTC

jimmaswell wrote: post #120

dvt wrote: post #118

Every single day, three things are becoming more and more clear: (1) OpenAI & Anthropic are absolutely cooked; it's obvious they have no moat (2) Local/private inference is the future of AI (3) There's *still* no killer product yet (so get to work!)

No killer product? Coding assistants and LLM's in general are the single most awe-inspiring achievement of humanity in my lifetime, technological or otherwise. They've already massively improved my and others' lives and they're only going to get better. If pre and post industrial revolution used to be the major binary delineation of our history, I'm fairly confident it will soon be seen as pre and post AI instead.

No killer products... just robots that can do vulnerability analysis at the level of a decent security engineer and write code without tiring.

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by allan_s » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:29 AM UTC

jimmaswell wrote: post #120

dvt wrote: post #118

Every single day, three things are becoming more and more clear: (1) OpenAI & Anthropic are absolutely cooked; it's obvious they have no moat (2) Local/private inference is the future of AI (3) There's *still* no killer product yet (so get to work!)

No killer product? Coding assistants and LLM's in general are the single most awe-inspiring achievement of humanity in my lifetime, technological or otherwise. They've already massively improved my and others' lives and they're only going to get better. If pre and post industrial revolution used to be the major binary delineation of our history, I'm fairly confident it will soon be seen as pre and post AI instead.

I've also been using the LLM in Posthog and it has been impressive. I need to check if I can also plug a MCP/Skill to my actual claude code so that I can cross reference the data from my other data source (stripe, local database, access logs etc.) for in depth analysis

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by 8dazo » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:30 AM UTC

Just saw the Claude Mythos post. Not sure when it’s going public, but this feels like a real jump, not just incremental progress. Also waiting for the next GLM release coz specs are looking kind of insane.

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by anon291 » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:37 AM UTC

dvt wrote: post #118

Every single day, three things are becoming more and more clear: (1) OpenAI & Anthropic are absolutely cooked; it's obvious they have no moat (2) Local/private inference is the future of AI (3) There's *still* no killer product yet (so get to work!)

(3) is simply a lie spread by engineers who have no other context. I manage some real estate (mid-term rentals) and everyone I know has switched over to AI robo-handlers to do the contact at this point. It's almost a passive investment at this point. Some can even handle interfacing with contractors and service requests for you. Revolutionized the field in my opinion.

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by qingcharles » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:38 AM UTC

disiplus wrote: post #79

stavros wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My local tennis court's reservation website was broken and I couldn't cancel a reservation, and I asked GLM-5.1 if it can figure out the API. Five minutes later, I check and it had found a /cancel.php URL that accepted an ID but the ID wasn't exposed anywhere, so it found and was exploiting a blind SQL injection vulnerability to find my reservation ID. Overeager, but I was really really impressed.

Yeah it seems they did not align it to much, at least for now. Yesterday it helped me bypass the bot detection on a local marketplace. that i wanted to scrap some listing for my personal alerting system. Al the others failed but glm5.1 found a set of parameters and tweaks how to make my browser in container not be detected.

I always jump on the Chinese models when I'm trying to do something that the US ones chastise me for, they're a little more liberal, especially around copyright.

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by pdntspa » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:40 AM UTC

jimmaswell wrote: post #120

dvt wrote: post #118

Every single day, three things are becoming more and more clear: (1) OpenAI & Anthropic are absolutely cooked; it's obvious they have no moat (2) Local/private inference is the future of AI (3) There's *still* no killer product yet (so get to work!)

No killer product? Coding assistants and LLM's in general are the single most awe-inspiring achievement of humanity in my lifetime, technological or otherwise. They've already massively improved my and others' lives and they're only going to get better. If pre and post industrial revolution used to be the major binary delineation of our history, I'm fairly confident it will soon be seen as pre and post AI instead.

I know right? 8-year-old me dreamed of being able to articulate software to a computer without having to write code. It (along with the original Stable Diffusion) are Definitely one of the coolest inventions to ever come along in my lifetime

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by mgfist » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:40 AM UTC

dvt wrote: post #118

Every single day, three things are becoming more and more clear: (1) OpenAI & Anthropic are absolutely cooked; it's obvious they have no moat (2) Local/private inference is the future of AI (3) There's *still* no killer product yet (so get to work!)

Posted this after mythos came out? The hutzpah

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by smallerize » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:56 AM UTC

ReptileMan wrote: post #101

disiplus wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it seems they did not align it to much, at least for now. Yesterday it helped me bypass the bot detection on a local marketplace. that i wanted to scrap some listing for my personal alerting system. Al the others failed but glm5.1 found a set of parameters and tweaks how to make my browser in container not be detected.

Model doing what the user wants with high quality is definitely aligned in my book.

It's too much in the direction of the paperclip maxmizer for me. It should only hack sites when explicitly directed to, not as a default.

Re: GLM-5.1: Towards Long-Horizon Tasks

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Post by grafmax » Wed, Apr 08, 2026, 12:57 AM UTC

dvt wrote: post #118

Every single day, three things are becoming more and more clear: (1) OpenAI & Anthropic are absolutely cooked; it's obvious they have no moat (2) Local/private inference is the future of AI (3) There's *still* no killer product yet (so get to work!)

> no moat

I'd like to think the superior product wins. But Windows still thrives despite widespread Linux availability. I think sometimes we can underestimate the resilience of the tech oligopolies, particularly when they're VC-funded.