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Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

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Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

#11

This kind of stuff is why I no longer use a kindle. I use a kobo which IMHO is not as good of a product but it's worth not supporting this behavior.

Because Amazon stops supporting devices after 14 years? (while they can still be used to read books already downloaded)

Really?

Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

#12
Side tangent: I’m the developer of Kindle Comic Converter. Kindle updates 5.19.2+ have completely broken the sideloaded manga reader with bugs like huge margins, pages being on the wrong side in 2 page landscape mode, no panel view, no % read tracker, and laggy page turns. I’ve documented the problems here and the first report was 50 days ago. https://youtu.be/Eo6K7omlE7g

And I haven’t even touched all the problems with normal sideloaded books like broken embedded/publisher fonts.

Kindle settings > help > contact us > email if you want to voice complaints.

Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

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post #5

I don't approve of a company shutting off network service for a device it sold, but... If this is a hint at much more formidable DRM coming out, could a silver lining for authors and publishers be more sales? Or is mass piracy going to just continue, full steam ahead? (Authors and publishers need any bit of good news they can get right now.)

DRM has always been a means of protecting a monopoly; copyright protection is merely the excuse given to justify the measure and the monopoly.

Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

#15

This kind of stuff is why I no longer use a kindle. I use a kobo which IMHO is not as good of a product but it's worth not supporting this behavior.

Where do you buy your e-books?

I've stuck with Kindle, but that's 80% inertia (Amazon has most books, the device works well enough) and 20% existing library is Kindle e-books.

Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

#16

Man, Amazon is really going above-and-beyond to cripple the last bastion of Kindle devices that carry a DRM scheme we can crack.

I hate Amazon more because than most people, but let’s be realistic.

These devices came out in 2007-2012

14-19 years is a respectable lifetime for a handheld electronic device.

Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

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post #5

I don't approve of a company shutting off network service for a device it sold, but... If this is a hint at much more formidable DRM coming out, could a silver lining for authors and publishers be more sales? Or is mass piracy going to just continue, full steam ahead? (Authors and publishers need any bit of good news they can get right now.)

DRM is why I will never own a second ebook reader and have returned to buying books.

None of my books stop working after 12 years, but my kindle, which still works fine, has indeed failed to do it's most basic job.

Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

#19
While everyone is commenting about drm, there is another factor to consider: TLS. These old Kindles definitely do not support up-to-date TLS ciphersuites and understandably Amazon wants/needs to drop insecure ciphersuites from public endpoints at some point. I'm pretty sure that is also the reason why the Wikipedia integration for these old Kindles broke ages ago.

Re: Kindle to end store downloads and registering for 1st-5th gen kindles in May

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post #16

Man, Amazon is really going above-and-beyond to cripple the last bastion of Kindle devices that carry a DRM scheme we can crack.

I hate Amazon more because than most people, but let’s be realistic. These devices came out in 2007-2012 14-19 years is a respectable lifetime for a handheld electronic device.

Yes...but let's also be realistic. Very few people are still using this Kindle as their daily driver. They've already upgraded to a PaperWhite or something better.

But there's a very simple reason that Amazon is cutting support for these. Many people (myself included--I have a 4th Gen still kicking around) keep one around because, after Amazon removed the Download option for Ebooks awhile back, having one of these old Kindles is the only way to download ebooks in a format from Amazon that can have their DRM cracked.

All Kindles newer than a certain date use the KFX format, with an encryption scheme that is constantly changing (basically any time someone figures out how to break it, Amazon updates it). Killing support for these old devices is basically Amazon's last step in removing "legacy" encryption schemes that can still be broken.

It would be the equivalent of Nintendo delivering a new firmware update for their Wii and Wii-U systems, in order to patch out a recently-discovered exploit. It serves no other purpose than to demonstrate the extreme contempt for Amazon's end-users and the lengths they're willing to go to combat user-freedom^W "piracy".

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