No one is going to like this answer, but there’s a simple solution: pay for API tokens and adjust your use of CC so that the actions you have it take are worth the cost of the tokens. It’s great to buy dollars for a penny, but the guy selling em is going to want to charge a dollar eventually…
Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
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#74Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…
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#75Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript frameworks of just ten years ago? Is it peer pressure, fear of missing out? At its root, I suspect so; of course I would imagine it's rare for the C-suite to have ever mandated the usage of a specific language or framework, and LLMs represent an unprecedented lever of power to have an even bigger shot at first mover's advantage, from a business perspective. (Yes, I am aware of how "good enough" local models have become for many.)
I don't really have anything useful nor actionable to say here regarding this dialling back of capability to deal with capacity issues. Are there any indications of shops or individual contributors with contingency plans on the table for dialling back LLM usage in kind to mitigate these unknowns? I know the calculus is such that potential (and frequently realised) gains heavily outweigh the risks of going all in, but, in the grander scheme of time and circumstance, long term commitments are starting to be more apparently risky. I am purposefully trying to avoid "begging the question" here; if instead of LLMs, this were some other tool or service, reactions to these events would have been far more pragmatic, with less of a reticence to invest time on in-house solutions when dealing with flaky vendors.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#76Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…
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#77If anthropic‘s reliability becomes a meme, they risk brand death like Microsoft. Go to hand it to them though, they’re really living that “AI writes all of our code and it should write your code too” life.
> they risk brand death like Microsoft Is Microsoft (one of the largest companies in the world) really a victim of brand death?
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume most of their outages is related to this insane scaling and lack of available compute. Vibe coding doesn't automatically mean lower quality. My codebase quality and overall app experience has improved since I started using agents to code. You can leverage AI to test as well as write new code.
> I assume most of their outages is related to this insane scaling and lack of available compute. > > Vibe coding doesn't automatically mean lower quality Scalability is a factor of smart/practical architectural decisions. Scalability doesn't happen for free and isn't emergent (the exact opposite is true) unless it is explicitly designed for. Problem is that ceding more of the decision making to the agent means that…
You are talking about software scaling patterns, Anthropic is running into hardware limitations because they are maxing out entire datacenters. That's not an architectural decision it's a financial gamble to front-run tens of billions in capacity ahead of demand.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume most of their outages is related to this insane scaling and lack of available compute. Vibe coding doesn't automatically mean lower quality. My codebase quality and overall app experience has improved since I started using agents to code. You can leverage AI to test as well as write new code.
After the CC leak last week I took a look at their codebase and my biggest criticism is they seem to never do refactoring passes. Personally I write something like 80-90% of my code with agents now but after they finish up, it's critical that you spin up another agent to clean up the code that the first one wrote. Looking at their code it's clear they do not do this (or do this enough). Like the main file being somet…
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I assume most of their outages is related to this insane scaling and lack of available compute. > > Vibe coding doesn't automatically mean lower quality Scalability is a factor of smart/practical architectural decisions. Scalability doesn't happen for free and isn't emergent (the exact opposite is true) unless it is explicitly designed for. Problem is that ceding more of the decision making to the agent means that…
Why would you think that the person you are replying to didn't design in scalability? What exactly are emergent features when vibe coding? If scalability is an explicit requirement it can be done.
> What exactly are emergent features when vibe coding?
Regression to the mean. See the other HN thread[0]The LLM has no concept of "taste" on its own.
Scalability, in particular, is a problem that goes beyond the code itself and also includes decisions that happen outside of the codebase. Infrastructure and "platform" in particular has a big impact on how to scale an application and dataset.
[0] https://dornsife.usc.edu/news/stories/ai-may-be-making-us-th...