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Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

kugelblitz wrote: post #38

I use bunny.net for CDN and DNS. I don't like free offerings, because what if they decide to charge someday? What if someone decides "free is not feasible, we start charging $20 per instance now". I'd rather have a low fee now, a change from $2 to $3 is more likely and that's fine for me. But from free to not free is risky for me. I also like smaller, independent-ish ompanies that actually care about developers. That…

If the rest of the market moved to $20, why would economics of another vendor moving from $2 to $3 at the same time be plausible?

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #65
samlinnfer wrote: post #60

I do have a question, is it even possible to have a CDN set up where they don't MITM and strip your TLS and re-encrypt or are we just picking which jurisdiction gets to inspect your traffic? edit: I'm thinking of the use case where the CDN as a proxy for APIs and uncachable content as well, where it used as a reverse proxy for transit/ddos protection.

Much of the point of a CDN is that they can cache responses, and likely also make other changes. I don't see how that could be done without seeing what's inside the request.

Comparing hashes of responses without knowing what is inside wouldn’t work?

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

Manchitsanan wrote: post #46

I'm currently running a SaaS on Cloudflare Workers + Pages. The developer experience is genuinely good, deploying serverless functions and static sites from the same repo has been seamless. But I hit a real issue recently: CDN edge caching served stale HTML after a deploy, and the service worker cached the bad response. Took a CDN purge from the dashboard to fix. The debugging experience when things go wrong at the e…

Bunny has a lot of that (they have a sqlite compatible API, edge functions, but the call it something different, etc.)

That being said, I had enough issues with Bunny and CF debugging across regions that I made this free tool to do both remote HTTP and TCP traceroutes to keep my sanity: https://dnsisbeautiful.com/global-http-availability

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by [deleted] »

samlinnfer wrote: post #60

I do have a question, is it even possible to have a CDN set up where they don't MITM and strip your TLS and re-encrypt or are we just picking which jurisdiction gets to inspect your traffic? edit: I'm thinking of the use case where the CDN as a proxy for APIs and uncachable content as well, where it used as a reverse proxy for transit/ddos protection.

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Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by stronglikedan »

freedomben wrote: post #63
joladev wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I realize I overdid it on the affiliate links so I've called out the link and removed some others. Just thought it was nice that they had an affiliate program. Nothing shady intended!

Thanks, just something to be mindful of in the future. It unfortunately can discredit your work if not clearly disclosed. Thanks for the post!

> It unfortunately can discredit your work

In a time where more people usually beg for forgiveness instead of asking for permission, it already has

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by osigurdson »

kugelblitz wrote: post #38

I use bunny.net for CDN and DNS. I don't like free offerings, because what if they decide to charge someday? What if someone decides "free is not feasible, we start charging $20 per instance now". I'd rather have a low fee now, a change from $2 to $3 is more likely and that's fine for me. But from free to not free is risky for me. I also like smaller, independent-ish ompanies that actually care about developers. That…

Logically, the only thing CloudFlare would do is lower or eliminate the free usage tier. For instance, if X million operations are currently free, they make X/2 operations free. I don't think they would do that, but if they did, it couldn't possibly be existential to any viable company.

Practically, any metered supplier can put you out of business. It usually doesn't happen because destruction is mutually assured.

+1 for using smaller, more independent companies in any case!

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by rmoriz »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #71
kugelblitz wrote: post #38

I use bunny.net for CDN and DNS. I don't like free offerings, because what if they decide to charge someday? What if someone decides "free is not feasible, we start charging $20 per instance now". I'd rather have a low fee now, a change from $2 to $3 is more likely and that's fine for me. But from free to not free is risky for me. I also like smaller, independent-ish ompanies that actually care about developers. That…

If the rest of the market moved to $20, why would economics of another vendor moving from $2 to $3 at the same time be plausible?

While this will probably happen over time, free* offerings are an anomaly you can‘t build a business on. But even 1€/months minimum is probably too low to cover costs.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by [deleted] »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #72
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much of the point of a CDN is that they can cache responses, and likely also make other changes. I don't see how that could be done without seeing what's inside the request.

Comparing hashes of responses without knowing what is inside wouldn’t work?

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