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Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

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Removed the ring. Just watching three movies of Frodo and friends living life in Hobbiton.

Removed the zombies. Just a guy in a sheriff's hat losing every group vote on where to camp next.

Removed the island. Now it's just a surgeon, a lottery winner, and a man carrying 40 knives all trying to get through TSA.

Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

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Really weird comments here. It's a VFX technique for cinematography, one of many of that kind (e.g. supporting wire removal). Cinematography in general is about showing something that doesn't exist, unless it's a documentary. Your only reaction is apparently calling censorship. Says a lot about the current Overton window and I think it's something you should reflect on.

To be honest, if that's what we see in open access, then there must already be something in existence that is closed. I don't want to create another conspiracy theory - I just want to point out the theoretical possibility - but if it was created, it has probably already been tested and possibly even used widely. So, in conclusion, if a government or agency wanted to use that technique for censorship, they would most…

You don't really need AI to do this, it can be done just fine with traditional techniques, just labor intensive. Hell you can probably find a dude on fiverr to do it right now for a couple hundred, YMMV.

Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

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The idea of applying this modern magic to history & art is horrifying. The dream of Minitrue! Presumably Netflix wants to erase smoking from its back catalog or some other bit of papier-mâché Stalinism. Oh well, neat bit of auto-regressive theater.

You'll really hate this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Fhb7JW93U

Correct.

Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

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Removed the mother. Enjoying 9 seasons of a man cornering his teenagers on a couch, describing every woman he's ever dated.

You forgot the /s

Removed the /s. Nothing materially changed.

Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

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Woah, this is absolutely sick! 10 years ago me would have been surprised something so small can encode all the world knowledge necessary to make this plausible. That they'd make this openly available is a dream.

I don't think it can continue the no-interaction line too far. This may be enough for movie-making purposes though.

Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

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Really weird comments here. It's a VFX technique for cinematography, one of many of that kind (e.g. supporting wire removal). Cinematography in general is about showing something that doesn't exist, unless it's a documentary. Your only reaction is apparently calling censorship. Says a lot about the current Overton window and I think it's something you should reflect on.

But wouldn't using this for eg. removing a support wire result in it making Superman fall down?

Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

#38

Really weird comments here. It's a VFX technique for cinematography, one of many of that kind (e.g. supporting wire removal). Cinematography in general is about showing something that doesn't exist, unless it's a documentary. Your only reaction is apparently calling censorship. Says a lot about the current Overton window and I think it's something you should reflect on.

The act of editing existing footage to mask reality with non-reality is just that—the action of making something real less real. It can be used for filmmaking (and obviously often is), but it can be used for anything else too.

The issue is how easily these tools can (and will) enable the worst faith actors and actions. It's not controversial (or shocking) to think the current situation for deep-fakes or deceptive edits is historically awful. It's equally reasonable to think these tools are going to do less good for VFX houses in Hollywood, and more evil in authoritarian regimes or chaotic social media networks. You're right that the Overton window has moved—but we ought to blame a White House that disseminates deepfakes, not commenters on HackerNews.

Tools aren't just tools, nothing exists in a vacuum. A plane is a useful means of transportation, but that doesn't mean everyone should be rushing into the cockpit. It's pretty plain to me how a tool that streamlines doctoring footage to such a useful (and deceptive) degree is just a recipe for disaster. Considering the benefit to society is...slightly eased CGI work (?), I'll easily label this a net-negative for us all.

Re: VOID: Video Object and Interaction Deletion

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Really weird comments here. It's a VFX technique for cinematography, one of many of that kind (e.g. supporting wire removal). Cinematography in general is about showing something that doesn't exist, unless it's a documentary. Your only reaction is apparently calling censorship. Says a lot about the current Overton window and I think it's something you should reflect on.

Given the current situation in the world why do you not think about technology can be misused, especially if it’s VFX.

I guess I have seen more AI generated spam ads than content created for the intended purpose.

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