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Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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There's no limit to the algorithms. People dont understand yet. They can learn the whole universe with a big enough compute cluster. We built a generalizable learning machine

Not sure if this is satire. Edit: What we have built is a natural language interface to existing, textually recorded, information. Transformers cannot learn the whole universe because the universe has not yet been recorded into text.

Poe's (c)law?

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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post #2

There's no limit to the algorithms. People dont understand yet. They can learn the whole universe with a big enough compute cluster. We built a generalizable learning machine

Not sure if this is satire. Edit: What we have built is a natural language interface to existing, textually recorded, information. Transformers cannot learn the whole universe because the universe has not yet been recorded into text.

Based on a glance at their other comments: not satire.

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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post #22

I’m surprised Anthropic wanted to partner with Broadcom when they have such a negative reputation with antics such as their VMWare acquisition.

I think it’s also important to add the context that Broadcom’s CEO, Hock Tan, went on CNBC in October and had a vacuous conversation with Jim Cramer about their OpenAI “deal” at the time [0]. Nothing of substance was said, it was just endless loops about the opportunity of AI. It is now 6 months later and there has been nary a peep from Broadcom about any updates.

I think Anthropic is a more grounded company than OpenAI because Sam Altman is insane, but it is still playing the same game.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU2HhJ3jCts

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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post #2

There's no limit to the algorithms. People dont understand yet. They can learn the whole universe with a big enough compute cluster. We built a generalizable learning machine

Not sure if this is satire. Edit: What we have built is a natural language interface to existing, textually recorded, information. Transformers cannot learn the whole universe because the universe has not yet been recorded into text.

100% agreed. Sadly, lots of people out there with the "trust me bro, just need more compute". Hopefully we don't consume all the planet's resources trying.

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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I guess gigawatts is how we roughly measure computing capacity at the datacenter scale? Also saw something similar here: > Costs and pricing are expressed per “token”, but the published data immediately seems to admit that this is a bad choice of unit because it costs a lot more to output a token than input one. It seems to me that the actual marginal quantity being produced and consumed is “processing power”, which…

> but the published data immediately seems to admit that this is a bad choice of unit because it costs a lot more to output a token than input one

And, that's silly, because API pricing is more expensive for output than input tokens, 5x so for Anthropic [1], and 6x so for OpenAI!

[1] https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing

[2] https://openai.com/api/pricing

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the question is will we experience resource constraints before we get there? what if the step up to post-scarcity is gated by a compute level just out of our reach?

human ingenuity will solve this

Or we'll have ecological collapse.

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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Can someone explain why everything is being marketed in terms of power consumption?

Because that’s the limiting factor

There's at least a decent argument to be made that the limiting factor is actually the physical silicon itself (at least at cutting-edge nodes) not really the power. This actually gives AI labs an incentive to run those specific chips somewhat cooler, because high device temperatures and high input voltages (which you need to push frequencies higher) might severely impact a modern chip's reliability over time.

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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post #22

I’m surprised Anthropic wanted to partner with Broadcom when they have such a negative reputation with antics such as their VMWare acquisition.

Broadcom makes the TPU. If you want TPUs, you are working with Broadcom whether you want to or not.

Re: Anthropic expands partnership with Google and Broadcom for next-gen compute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if this is satire. Edit: What we have built is a natural language interface to existing, textually recorded, information. Transformers cannot learn the whole universe because the universe has not yet been recorded into text.

100% agreed. Sadly, lots of people out there with the "trust me bro, just need more compute". Hopefully we don't consume all the planet's resources trying.

I reevaluated my priors long ago when I saw that scaling laws show no sign of stopping, no sign of plateau.

Strangely some people on HN seem to desperately cling to the notion that it's all going to come to a halt. This is unscientific. What evidence do you have - any evidence - that the scaling laws are due to come to an end?

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