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Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by unsupp0rted »

cs702 wrote: post #30
ronanfarrow wrote: post #5

Ronan Farrow here. Andrew Marantz and I spent 18 months on this investigation. Happy to answer questions about the reporting.

Thank you for coming on HN and offering to answer questions.[a] This is a fantastic piece, very timely, evidently well-researched, and also well-written. Judging by the little that I know, it's accurate. Thank you for doing the work and sharing it with the world. OpenAI may be in a more tenuous competitive position than many people realize. Recent anecdotal evidence suggests the company has lost its lead in the AI ra…

Many of us prefer OpenAI's Codex, because we think it's a better product.

No comment on the CEO: I just find the product superior in everything but UI/UX and conversation. It's better at quality code.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by dang »

georgemcbay wrote: post #52
cs702 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for coming on HN and offering to answer questions.[a] This is a fantastic piece, very timely, evidently well-researched, and also well-written. Judging by the little that I know, it's accurate. Thank you for doing the work and sharing it with the world. OpenAI may be in a more tenuous competitive position than many people realize. Recent anecdotal evidence suggests the company has lost its lead in the AI ra…

> You may want to provide proof online that you are who you say you are Unfortunately it probably doesn't even matter here on HN considering how brigaded down this story is predictably getting. But yeah, it was a fantastic piece.

It wasn't getting "brigaded down" - it set off a software penalty called the flamewar detector. I turned that off as soon as I saw it.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by FloorEgg »

ronanfarrow wrote: post #5

Ronan Farrow here. Andrew Marantz and I spent 18 months on this investigation. Happy to answer questions about the reporting.

Hi Ronan,

I would love to read your piece and pay you and new Yorker for it, but I am not interested in paying a subscription. If I could press a button and pay a reasonable one time license such as $3 or $5 for just this article, or better yet a few cents per paragraph as they load in, I wouldn't hesitate.

However I'm not going to pay for yet another subscription to access one article I'm interested in.

I'm sure you can't do anything about this, but I just wanted you to know.

You deserve to be compensated for great journalism. In this case, unfortunately, I won't read it and you won't earn income from me.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by caycep »

FloorEgg wrote: post #84
ronanfarrow wrote: post #5

Ronan Farrow here. Andrew Marantz and I spent 18 months on this investigation. Happy to answer questions about the reporting.

Hi Ronan, I would love to read your piece and pay you and new Yorker for it, but I am not interested in paying a subscription. If I could press a button and pay a reasonable one time license such as $3 or $5 for just this article, or better yet a few cents per paragraph as they load in, I wouldn't hesitate. However I'm not going to pay for yet another subscription to access one article I'm interested in. I'm sure you…

You could hit up a public library...

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by unsupp0rted »

game_the0ry wrote: post #75

For those curious about how sama got to where he got and stayed on top for so long, I recommend you read the book: The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout. I am fairly confident when I say this -- sama is a sociopath. I don't know how anyone with solid intuition could even come to any other conclusion than the guy is deeply weird and off-putting. Some concepts from the book: > Core trait: The defining characteristic…

I suspect there's some other category, which isn't really a sociopath and isn't really a not-sociopath, which we don't have a good definition for.

We only say a lot of CEOs are sociopaths because they're in that third category we haven't named, where they're very good at manipulating people, but also can feel conscience, guilt, remorse, etc, perhaps just muted or easier to justify against.

E.g. if you think you're doing something for the betterment of mankind, it doesn't really matter if you lie to some board members some year during the multi-decade pursuit.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by IrishTechie »

FloorEgg wrote: post #84
ronanfarrow wrote: post #5

Ronan Farrow here. Andrew Marantz and I spent 18 months on this investigation. Happy to answer questions about the reporting.

Hi Ronan, I would love to read your piece and pay you and new Yorker for it, but I am not interested in paying a subscription. If I could press a button and pay a reasonable one time license such as $3 or $5 for just this article, or better yet a few cents per paragraph as they load in, I wouldn't hesitate. However I'm not going to pay for yet another subscription to access one article I'm interested in. I'm sure you…

I’ve often thought about a model like this and would love to see a few news outlets run it as a pilot and see how it stacks up.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by mattbee »

FloorEgg wrote: post #84
ronanfarrow wrote: post #5

Ronan Farrow here. Andrew Marantz and I spent 18 months on this investigation. Happy to answer questions about the reporting.

Hi Ronan, I would love to read your piece and pay you and new Yorker for it, but I am not interested in paying a subscription. If I could press a button and pay a reasonable one time license such as $3 or $5 for just this article, or better yet a few cents per paragraph as they load in, I wouldn't hesitate. However I'm not going to pay for yet another subscription to access one article I'm interested in. I'm sure you…

Or just switch your browser to Reader Mode and it's free.

Re: Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

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Post by dang »

just_once wrote: post #39

Amazing that this article and an actual comment from Ronan Farrow is this far down the list while...Scientists Figured Out How Eels Reproduce (2022) has 6 times the points.

This thread set off a software penalty called the flamewar detector.* I turned that off as soon as I saw it.

(* This was predictable from the title, because the question in it was inevitably going to trigger an avalanche of crap replies. Normally we'd change the title to something less baity, and indeed the article is so substantive that it deserves a considerably better one. But I'm not going to change it in this case, since the story has connections to YC - about that see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....)

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