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Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
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Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
If that is your qualification for a dictatorship, then the U.S falls in that category as well. See WikiLeaks, and Assange.
Downvoted, because "X happens in every dictatorship" does not mean "every place where X happens is a dictatorship", and also because I think there is a noticeable difference between Gmail and Wikileaks (even though I supported the latter).
"If that is your qualification for a dictatorship"
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#83There should be nothing new. Google services are blocked for several years. But not every service is blocked in the same way.
Google+ and Docs is wholly blocked a long time ago. Google.com is blocked intermittently. Gmail and Maps are usually OK, but not very fluent these several days.
GFW is a mysterious monolithic and complex system. No outsider knows the rules and mechanisms.
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#84It seems they want to make an example out of Google: "If you disagree with our censorship, this is what will happen to you, too", and create chilling effects for any other company who's considering being "moral" in China. I wonder if Obama will do this to China, too: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/us-imposes-sancti...
The Chinese government is going through a transition period at the moment, so much is undecided. But it is unfortunate (especially being Chinese) that the central government is becoming more conservative overtime (politically conservative, fiscally liberal). I do hope that this is just a phase rather than something persistent. With regard to foreign policy, the US had been playing a very interesting game of hard-soft…
"politically conservative, fiscally liberal"
Fiscal politics are still politics so this doesn't make much sense, do you mean socially conservative?
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would happen if a law was passed banning smoking in a particular area? Would ordinary Chinese be able to object to it, would they be able to petition the legislature that passed the law without fear of reprisal? What if your kid's school adopted something in the curriculum that you found objectionable - could you complain without fear? I am not being snarky, I really am curious about how bright the line is betwe…
It is already illegal on paper to smoke in many areas. Just like it is illegal to sell iPhone clones. Basically when the police are passing you, you stop smoking/selling fake iPhones...
Or you offer the cop a cigarette? Anti smoking laws are poorly enforeced in Beijing.
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The interwebs are awash w/ the latest US election results, and viral youtube videos of Obama thanking his young twentysomething campaign staffers. Strangely enough, those kind of images remind me of a Chinese-style dictatorship. Legions of apparently adoring fans worshipping their benevolent leader, chanting slogans, etc. To the rest of the world, the presidential election is a reminder of everything that is wrong…
you're from the UK, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britishness In November 2007 The Times' Comment Central asked readers to define Britishness in five little words. The winning suggestion was "No motto please, we're British."
Not sure how this is relevant?
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#87There should be nothing new. Google services are blocked for several years. But not every service is blocked in the same way. Google+ and Docs is wholly blocked a long time ago. Google.com is blocked intermittently. Gmail and Maps are usually OK, but not very fluent these several days. GFW is a mysterious monolithic and complex system. No outsider knows the rules and mechanisms.
I agree. I just want to add that I think they have a "degrade" mode designed more to be annoying than to block access. I know people here in Shanghai who hate Google products because they're so "slow", "unreliable", etc. Of course, they're perfect through a VPN.
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#88Aargh. I'm leaving for a vacation in China in a week and a half. I guess I'm going to have to set up my own VPN tunnel to ensure that I can still access my email, etc. I'm assuming I can set something up through my dd-wrt router at home. Off to read the docs...
I've been using StrongVPN.com for over a year without any problems. It's speed is decent too. I am not affiliated with them in any way.
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
you're from the UK, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britishness In November 2007 The Times' Comment Central asked readers to define Britishness in five little words. The winning suggestion was "No motto please, we're British."
Not sure how this is relevant?
I'm sorry, what I meant was that (stereotype warning) the British are particularly cynical-reserved about putting your identity/politics on your sleeve, and the Americans are the opposite, so part of your disgust might be from cultural differences
or to further quote, “The point I was making is, this idea of a statement of Britishness; I cannot think of anything less British than that,” said 25-year-old David Bishop, author of the winning motto.
Re: Chinese government blocks Google.com, Gmail, Google+, Maps, Docs and more
#90I'm located in Shenzhen, China and all those domains work as usual except for Google+ and Google Docs which have been banned for a while. Google DNS also works as usual. Even Google.cn redirects to Google.com.hk as usual. Guess I'm either lucky or this was a very short lived ban in the middle of the night. edit: Reading the article again, it seems Google didn't actually confirm the block. They simply stated there was…
Most of the time google.com works (but slow, maybe because the data has to pass the GFW), but periodically, or when you search some sensitive words, the search engine become unresponsive. It's been like this for many years - I'm an extensive user of Google in China.
And recently I also have found that, the search result list displays normally, until you click to open the target pages.
There are millions of things would make me hate that evil gov, but this one thing makes me...sorry, out of words to describe as a non-native English speaker.