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I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

#331

The author touches on this in the last section, but I'd reframe this a different way. The natural conclusion for a company who wants to funnel you to the app is, "the web version is a-OK? Let's make the web version worse." I'd rather see this framed as, "if you don't have a high functioning web version, I don't need to use your service." Gimping my preferred medium will lose me as a customer. If enough people draw th…

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Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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Web browser is a sandbox by default. Worst a sketchy site does is eat a tab, less if you run an adblocker. Native app? Background processes, hardware ID shenanigans, your contacts, location. The whole buffet.

> your contacts, location. The whole buffet. It's not like an app is getting those without your knowledge, and many times it's useful for an app to have your contacts or location...

The weather app I used sent location data from pretty much everyone who didn't manually go through the effort to opt out to some shady American data broker that got hacked. Most people using the app gave it location permissions because of its ability to warn for rain coming to your precise location with decent accuracy.

Nobody wanted to share their location with these data brokers, but thanks to underfunded privacy watchdogs, you have no idea what happens to any app that you give any kind of permission.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

#335

I specifically do this with apps like Discord, because it seemed like every time I launched the app, there was a 200mb+ update. I can just use the web version instead and skip all that, along with the memory usage (for the most part).

I find it so annoying that certain apps update every single time I open them. Why can’t they build something more stable?

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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I think it's best to ignore this kind of user feedback and focus on the users who really want the service or product and are willing download an app if necessary or use the web version if necessary. Popular opinions on apps/web and desktop/mobile change every few years. I remember when Facebook became deeply unpopular and was afraid of going under because they didn't manage to provide a native app.

Because of the walled gardens, duplication of efforts, and waste of resources I'd personally favor if apps died out but that is never going to happen because they always have better platform integration.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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post #149

Folding phones are the big/small screen compromise. One you fold, nobody goes back. The samsung fold7 in particular is the same thickness/weight as slab phones, but unfolds to become a tablet. Please don't vote if you haven't held one. The compromise is cost, durability (dust, water), some battery life & some camera. Huge gains in productivity and night-to-day difference consuming video and photos. Google Maps FTW.

> durability (dust, water)

Not just dust and water but folding screens are plastic with a mohs hardness of 2-3, as opposed to normal phones with glass screens which are a 6-7 hardness. I like having phones that can't be permanently damaged by pressing my fingernail a little hard into it.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hgg4YEdPak&t=140s

Another example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uS90jakOuw&t=107s

I also can trivially replace the screen on my regular phone at home, whereas I'd have to get a folding phone professionally repaired for many hundreds of dollars.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

#338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This guy thinks he's a power user because he doesn't know how to close tabs.

Measuring tech skill by how many tabs you have open is like measuring carpentry skill by how disorganized your workshop is.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot more people than most HN readers realize simply struggle significantly with abstract thinking and reasoning. It's natural that people who enjoy programming and hacking and related fields are very comfortable with such abstract types of thought. But I really think that isn't all that common amongst most people. I think the average person has to learn such thinking abilities with difficulty (though they c…

> Which is actually why the "files and folders" metaphor is apt. It's a starting point, but I certainly wouldn't say it's the best metaphor that there could be. The idea of subfolders just doesn't make sense in a filing cabinet analogy, because you have to consider paper size - any folder which could fit into another folder is not going to be able to contain your regularly sized documents. That said, I can't think of…

> The idea of subfolders just doesn't make sense in a filing cabinet analogy,

Sure it does. The document is located in Building C, Sub-basement 2, Room 123, cabinet 415, folder labeled "Accounts". And a physical folder can certainly contain other folders. Nit-picking the analogy wastes everyone's time.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

#340

Browsers don't allow notifications if you don't have the site open. Browser ads can get blocked by browser extensions. Browsers make it harder to have an icon for a site/service directly on the home screen. Browsers make it harder to get extensive permissions. Browsers allow content to displayed without first being run through an approval process. For companies these are all downsides but for me they are all upsides.…

Browsers most definitely do allow for notifications if you don't have the site open. I use that feature all the time and it works perfectly.

Google Chrome does seem to catch spam sites that abuse notification permissions to send ads, though, so for a certain category of crapware websites aren't an option.

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