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Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by charcircuit »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #48
charcircuit wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that the larger Internet should be capable of routing lawful traffic through jurisdictions where such traffic is lawful to another jurisdiction where the traffic is lawful. But within a country for example local laws should be applied to the traffic.

There are two options here: 1) You can have an encrypted connection between two jurisdictions that have different laws, but then anyone can route around censorship because you don't know if they're discussing geopolitics or distributing DeCSS. 2) You can't have an encrypted connection between two jurisdictions that have different laws, which is >99% of all connections because even different cities have different laws…

I am fine with encryption, but there should be a legal process that can stop the violation of laws such as by disconnecting nodes that violate laws or preventing linking to nodes that violate laws.

Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by dmitrygr »

Do I need to bring out the flowchart again?

If you want resistance from USA's bullshit, host in China or Russia. If you want resistance form China's bullshit, host in USA or Russia. If you want resistance from Russia's bullshit, host in USA or China.

For purposes of this chat, Europe == USA since they do as USA says when it comes to copyright.

Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by largehotcoffee »

I'm Jacob, the CEO of FAKKU. The notice being discussed was sent by a 3rd party DMCA agent without our approval or permission. It seems they are using AI to find repositories related to legitimate issues and projects like this one got caught up in it. I've informed them NOT to continue doing this and to immediately cease.

The underlying issue is similar to if there was a website that illegally hosted Netflix content it had downloaded from torrents. Then that illegal website put up advertisements next to the content, or even a paywall cheaper than Netflix to make money. Obviously, that's against the law and Netflix would do something about it. That's generally what we are having to fight against.

Ironically projects like this actually hurt that illegal website, by circumventing THEIR paywall or advertisements, and serving the content inside an app for free (which was originally paid content). It's a complicated issue, but going after projects like this doesn't solve the root problem.

Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by ddtaylor »

lloeki wrote: post #35
14 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was actually just wondering if torrents were the way to go. I don't have any experience with github so not sure if torrents are at all suitable but I always had the thought that they were decentralized so once released hard to stop as long as someone has a copy.

https://radicle.xyz/

Thanks this looks interesting.

Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by ddtaylor »

charcircuit wrote: post #61
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two options here: 1) You can have an encrypted connection between two jurisdictions that have different laws, but then anyone can route around censorship because you don't know if they're discussing geopolitics or distributing DeCSS. 2) You can't have an encrypted connection between two jurisdictions that have different laws, which is >99% of all connections because even different cities have different laws…

I am fine with encryption, but there should be a legal process that can stop the violation of laws such as by disconnecting nodes that violate laws or preventing linking to nodes that violate laws.

I think you're missing the concept here that laws change as a packet travels from one switch to another, not to mention what happens after they go under the ocean.

Are you prepared to be held accountable for breaking the laws of repressed countries that sentence people to death for leaving a religion or insulting authority?

I assume not, but then it's an arbitrary game of whos laws and when. The only logical continuation would be if we had a standard of law worldwide, but that's a separate problem in itself and not anywhere near reality today.

Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

charcircuit wrote: post #61
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two options here: 1) You can have an encrypted connection between two jurisdictions that have different laws, but then anyone can route around censorship because you don't know if they're discussing geopolitics or distributing DeCSS. 2) You can't have an encrypted connection between two jurisdictions that have different laws, which is >99% of all connections because even different cities have different laws…

I am fine with encryption, but there should be a legal process that can stop the violation of laws such as by disconnecting nodes that violate laws or preventing linking to nodes that violate laws.

Suppose there is a shared server outside your jurisdiction which is hosting a wide variety of content none of which is a violation of the law in their jurisdiction, but 2% of the content is a violation of the law in your jurisdiction. Or isn't hosting any content at all but also isn't a jurisdiction that does the same censorship as yours and then people can use the connection as a VPN.

If people in your jurisdiction can make a secure connection to it, e.g. to get the 98% of the content they have which is lawful in your jurisdiction, then they can also get the content you were trying to ban because you can't tell which one they're doing. Preventing this is all or nothing: Either they can connect to the server that isn't subject to your laws, or they can't. And the latter is heinous and tyrannical.

Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by blue1214 »

largehotcoffee wrote: post #63

I'm Jacob, the CEO of FAKKU. The notice being discussed was sent by a 3rd party DMCA agent without our approval or permission. It seems they are using AI to find repositories related to legitimate issues and projects like this one got caught up in it. I've informed them NOT to continue doing this and to immediately cease. The underlying issue is similar to if there was a website that illegally hosted Netflix content…

if you have any ounce of humanity left inside you then retract the DMCA notice and leave this project and hard working innocent dev alone.

Re: Media scraper Gallery-dl is moving to Codeberg after receiving a DMCA notice

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Post by Hateshews »

largehotcoffee wrote: post #63

I'm Jacob, the CEO of FAKKU. The notice being discussed was sent by a 3rd party DMCA agent without our approval or permission. It seems they are using AI to find repositories related to legitimate issues and projects like this one got caught up in it. I've informed them NOT to continue doing this and to immediately cease. The underlying issue is similar to if there was a website that illegally hosted Netflix content…

I have a big archive torrent of Licensed Fakku and Irodori Mangas. I will double down on seeding these torrents and every Fakku Archive I will find. Hope you're happy you greedy snake
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