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Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by whimsicalism »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #299
whimsicalism wrote: post #225

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do you think the current environment is more or less just than it was during the 1969 moon landing?

I think the tech world is fundamentally difference, though I'm not old enough to experience it in '69. I don't believe we had tech moguls who built enormous wealth and realized they could by the influence they couldn't muster with social influence, and that has made the world net-worse.

I find it odd how reluctant you are to say it is more just today. I think it is no comparison.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

delecti wrote: post #427
scotty79 wrote: post #328

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One of the astronauts is Sunday school teacher and took the Bible up there with him as a comfort item. It was mentioned in the news already. https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/there-are-no-a... Don't shoot the messenger

Surely you can see the difference between broadcasting a bible read from the module and him carrying that bible as a personal item. I certainly think there's a very stark difference between the two. I absolutely support people rights to whatever deeply held beliefs bring them comfort; I do not support him using his position literally and metaphorically atop a multi-billion dollar government project to proselytize.

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Post by brightball »

esseph wrote: post #327
brightball wrote: post #208

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Last time he got a bunch of money he used it to fund SpaceX and Tesla. Now also Neuralink. It’s hard to imagine anyone else who’s done more for the planet with his money than Musk.

He's directly responsible for the deaths of several hundred thousand people via DOGE and their abrupt withdrawal and support of food aid. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

Those estimates are highly disputed because they all come from modeled projections, not anything attributed on the ground.

If a death toll like that was real and attributable it would be the only thing in the news, 24/7, until the next election.

The fact is, it’s not. Aid was relocated to other departments and continued. Significant insider pork was cut leading to a lot of very loud people complaining with hyperbole in their outrage.

Elon remains the most effective person in history at wielding wealth for the benefit of mankind. It is not particularly close and he has banked more credibility for moon-shot efforts (pun intended) than anyone on the planet.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by _moof »

_moof wrote: post #374
ryanSrich wrote: post #353

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The cynicism or even lack of interest is because it's extremely underwhelming. If you ask 100 people in 1969 what humans would be doing in space in 57 years I can guarantee not a single person would guess that we've done nothing of substance. And that the most exciting thing we have done that involved human space travel is simply flying around the moon, people wouldn't believe it

It really sucks that you responded to my exhaustion with the exact thing I'm exhausted by. And you aren't even saying anything new. Please don't do this again.

Also, maybe make that an "I" statement. It may be underwheling to you, but it absolutely is not underwhelming to a lot of people.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by _moof »

davidw wrote: post #54
dust42 wrote: post #28

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Yes, and right now is full moon, thus the far side is only illuminated by stars.

I wonder why they decided on that timing? If it were better illuminated by the sun, couldn't they get some better photography?

This is a vehicle test, not a sightseeing trip. Photography is not the priority.

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Post by rexpop »

remarkEon wrote: post #351
rexpop wrote: post #346

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I'm an American, too, and justice-for-all is my watchword—not this "grand adventure" costume for self-aggrandizement.

Sorry, how is it a costume? It literally is a grand adventure.

It's a disguise for self-aggrandizement.

"Grand" and "adventure" are subjective terms.

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Post by nomel »

YZF wrote: post #304
skeeter2020 wrote: post #294

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>> Rather than assigning blame I think it's fair to ask the people here to behave First, are you not doing just that - blaming the people here for making you unhappy? Second, you're welcome to demand this, but they/we are just as welcome to tell you to piss off.

As I was typing my reply I did pause to think about whether I am being part of the problem. I still decided to reply. My excuse is that I'm not the one who brought politics into this and I feel ok pushing back against that once others do. > First, are you not doing just that - blaming the people here for making you unhappy? I don't think so? > Second, you're welcome to demand this, but they/we are just as welcome to…

> There's little I can do

I use https://hackersmacker.org to mark them with a red dot so I can skip those comments. It's like slashdot's friend/foe system (including social aspect). There are also plugins that allow blocking and filtering users.

I'm, personally, here to interact with people interested in tech. I feel no shame in curating my experience to fit that. If I wanted to be saturated in politics, I would make a Reddit account.

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Post by heyitsmedotjayb »

kklisura wrote: post #69

On one of Apollo missions they've read from Bible, Book of Genesis [1]. I wish they did something like that here - and I'm not even a Christian, let alone religious. They did relay some beautiful message [2] though. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4tDZye57D4 [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELslc6O4UVk

they should read the torah but NASA is antisemitic

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Post by mrguyorama »

aworks wrote: post #341
telman17 wrote: post #187

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These people existed in the Apollo era just not on a website. We weren't exactly living in a utopia then either and you'd have difficulty convincing some folks to be excited about space exploration then too. Some people feel their outlook on the world takes precedence. And they'll shit in other people's celebrations to get their point across. Best to downvote or ignore them and embrace what nuance you can find.

I was 10 in 1969. Landing on the moon was a communal and shared event for a large percentage of the population, via one of the three television networks. As was the war in Vietnam. Many decades later, our institutions are in need of rebuild, for the common good. Maybe this event is a "small step" in that direction.

The Apollo program only barely reached 50% approval during the Apollo 11 landing. They canceled landings because people stopped caring within a couple moon landings.

The popularity of Apollo is fictional. Artemis has dramatically better popularity than Apollo.

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Post by Gagarin1917 »

sega_sai wrote: post #407
Gagarin1917 wrote: post #396

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Have you always felt the same way about Apollo and the Vietnam War? Or are you considering this for the first time?

I was not around at that time, so I have not considered it. But it is a fair point.

Even with darkness in the world, it’s still healthy and moral to appreciate the good that happens. I’d say it’s actually important to do so in life in general.

Emotional maturity is balancing both the good and bad in life and not letting either completely dominate your reality.

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