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Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

mjmsmith wrote: post #329
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He could be expressing the generational frustration of being black in America I’m sure that’s how the racist young Republicans would defend themselves too. It’s hard being a young man in America today.

It's safe to assume that racist young Republicans contribute more to the difficulty of being black in America than vice versa. What's your point?

> It's safe to assume that racist young Republicans contribute more to the difficulty of being black in America than vice versa

If racism follows “eye for an eye,” sure. I don’t think most people feel someone being discriminated at when young is excused from being racist when older. If that is the case, everyone who had any poverty in their childhood is off the hook for horrible behavior. That isn’t true, at least for most voters anywhere.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by drjasonharrison »

implements wrote: post #82
_fw wrote: post #39

Am I losing it? They can’t be seeing the far side of the moon right now, because they haven’t adjusted course to go round the far side of the moon yet… So does this suggest the BBC is wrong and it’s the side of the moon we’re used to seeing, but just it’s “dark”? But then the astronauts are saying it’s weird seeing the moon in a whole new light (excuse the paraphrasing pun). I don’t understand.

Remember that they’re not flying towards the Moon but to a point in space where they and the Moon will be closest together in a day or two, hence the Moon is now ‘off to their side’ and they can see a segment of it that is hidden to Earth observers … I think. Also, the dark side of the Moon is often illuminated but we call it dark because it’s also hidden from earth due to the Earth and Moon being tidally locked (the…

We call it "dark" because we are sloppy.

The same side of the moon always faces the Earth. If the same side of the Earth always faced the moon, then only one hemisphere would be able to see the moon. Since you can see the moon from everywhere on Earth (not at the same time...), we know that the same side of the Earth does not always face the moon.

Unless you're thinking of the "outside" of the Earth. /s

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Post by infinitewars »

thegrim33 wrote: post #172

It's pretty depressing that on a corner of the internet that's supposed to be a gathering of tech/geeks/nerds/stem people, discussing topics that "good hackers would find interesting", it's seemingly impossible to have a single thread about something like this that isn't almost entirely negative or political bickering.

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thegrim33 wrote: post #172

It's pretty depressing that on a corner of the internet that's supposed to be a gathering of tech/geeks/nerds/stem people, discussing topics that "good hackers would find interesting", it's seemingly impossible to have a single thread about something like this that isn't almost entirely negative or political bickering.

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Post by nntwozz »

dzjkb wrote: post #355
fortran77 wrote: post #309

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you can't be serious, have an honest look at the history of US involvment around the world in the last ~80 years and tell me how can you be pro-West and pro-capitalist... hell, even just the situation we're in right now perfectly illustrates what I mean - a rapist president trying to save face and causing the death and suffering of thousands of innocent people - and you're wrong if you think capitalist forces didn't…

“It is much safer to be feared than loved because ...love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.”

― Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by RestartKernel »

encom wrote: post #273
majkinetor wrote: post #14

FYI: https://issinfo.net/artemis

That site absolutely murders my CPU by... drawing vector graphics. This one displays basically the same info and is made by someone competent: https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis-ii/arow/

This is an entire Unity project that won't load due to however many content blockers I've got running on my phone. The incompetent one loads instantly, though it's admittedly laggy.

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

Teever wrote: post #377
WalterBright wrote: post #364

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When you find proof of atrocities, feel free to post it. > dream of mars He's doing something about it, while nobody else does nuttin. Meanwhile, https://medium.com/swlh/here-s-to-the-crazy-ones-941190f58c5... And it's his money being spent on it, not yours. You're not out anything. And if he succeeds, we all win. The starship is a reality. Not a con.

Why don’t you just admit that you don’t really give a shit how many people he kills or laws he breaks as long as he does cool space stuff? Like why beat around the bush? Just be honest man. The honesty would be refreshing. It’s not like this attitude is unprecedented in aeronautics.

Presumably he doesn't "admit" it because it isn't true. You aren't going to get anywhere convincing people if you make attacks on your interlocutor like this.

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Post by WalterBright »

Teever wrote: post #377
WalterBright wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you find proof of atrocities, feel free to post it. > dream of mars He's doing something about it, while nobody else does nuttin. Meanwhile, https://medium.com/swlh/here-s-to-the-crazy-ones-941190f58c5... And it's his money being spent on it, not yours. You're not out anything. And if he succeeds, we all win. The starship is a reality. Not a con.

Why don’t you just admit that you don’t really give a shit how many people he kills or laws he breaks as long as he does cool space stuff? Like why beat around the bush? Just be honest man. The honesty would be refreshing. It’s not like this attitude is unprecedented in aeronautics.

He hasn't killed anybody. Nor has he been charged with any crimes.

google sez: "One estimate suggests Tesla’s impact, through emission reductions, has saved over 20,000 lives globally."

google sez: "A 2022 report suggested that Tesla and other electric vehicle technologies (which often include enhanced safety features) have contributed to saving thousands of lives."

Empathy is judged by what one is willing to freely give. Not by making someone else give, and not by spending someone else's money.

> It’s not like this attitude is unprecedented in aeronautics.

You'd be quite wrong. I've worked with many aeronautical engineers, and their primary concern is safety. I'm personally very proud that the system I worked on has never been at fault in an accident. When the MD-83 went down because of jackscrew failure, I was sweating bullets worrying that it was a 757. Whenever I board an aircraft that is a 757, I feel a lot of pride and I always ask to speak to the captain and ask him how he likes it. They always say they love the 757. Makes me happy!

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Post by asdfasvea »

esseph wrote: post #327
brightball wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time he got a bunch of money he used it to fund SpaceX and Tesla. Now also Neuralink. It’s hard to imagine anyone else who’s done more for the planet with his money than Musk.

He's directly responsible for the deaths of several hundred thousand people via DOGE and their abrupt withdrawal and support of food aid. https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

Directly? I do not think it means what you think it means.

Hate the guy all you want, even for this, but don't try and juice it another 20% with emotional words that are ultimately incorrect.

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Post by verisimi »

LanceH wrote: post #319
_moof wrote: post #252

I just need to say it's an extremely huge bummer how much cynicism and negativity there is about this mission. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Neither was Apollo. We are all painfully aware of the things that make it imperfect. It's still joyous and exciting. Try to let it be.

This has to be the most poorly documented event of this scale. This link, for example, "first glimpse of far side...[video]", is a video of the crew inside the craft. yawn It seems like every article I've read is like this. Like they're trying to encourage conspiracy theories. We're talking about the unseen, far side of the moon, and they can't scrape together at least a still image of it? The launch was in lower res…

No video of earth either, just a very promoted new image (taken on old cameras). And then the conversation is about the amazing emotions they feel. And all four of them are just chatting, no need for anyone to be monitoring anything.
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