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Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by aworks »

telman17 wrote: post #187
thegrim33 wrote: post #172

It's pretty depressing that on a corner of the internet that's supposed to be a gathering of tech/geeks/nerds/stem people, discussing topics that "good hackers would find interesting", it's seemingly impossible to have a single thread about something like this that isn't almost entirely negative or political bickering.

These people existed in the Apollo era just not on a website. We weren't exactly living in a utopia then either and you'd have difficulty convincing some folks to be excited about space exploration then too. Some people feel their outlook on the world takes precedence. And they'll shit in other people's celebrations to get their point across. Best to downvote or ignore them and embrace what nuance you can find.

I was 10 in 1969. Landing on the moon was a communal and shared event for a large percentage of the population, via one of the three television networks. As was the war in Vietnam.

Many decades later, our institutions are in need of rebuild, for the common good. Maybe this event is a "small step" in that direction.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by not_kurt_godel »

thegrim33 wrote: post #172

It's pretty depressing that on a corner of the internet that's supposed to be a gathering of tech/geeks/nerds/stem people, discussing topics that "good hackers would find interesting", it's seemingly impossible to have a single thread about something like this that isn't almost entirely negative or political bickering.

How do you evaluate your own comment by the criteria you have set forth within it?

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by SergeAx »

nasretdinov wrote: post #9

I like how most people's reactions at this point are "yeah, whatever", as if it's every day that humans observe the far side of the moon with a naked eye through a window :). We do know what it looks like and we have photos from the surface, yes, but seeing the reaction from real people who're actually there does hit different, at least for me

But we, as humans, were literally "been there, done that". Nothing new is happening. We are just picking up the ball where we dropped it 50 years ago. The ship is somehow newer and even has a toilet. The said toilet receives most news coverage.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by WalterBright »

dalyons wrote: post #340
WalterBright wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I absolutely despise Musk at the same time for being absolute buffoon Buffoonery is harmless, why despise him for that?

Tell that to the 100k+ people he killed by abruptly and illegally halting usaid

What I've heard is it's "thousands", "100k+", and "millions", which doesn't sound like anything trustworthy.

Besides, that's not what "buffoonery" means.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by none2585 »

fortran77 wrote: post #309
thegrim33 wrote: post #172

It's pretty depressing that on a corner of the internet that's supposed to be a gathering of tech/geeks/nerds/stem people, discussing topics that "good hackers would find interesting", it's seemingly impossible to have a single thread about something like this that isn't almost entirely negative or political bickering.

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There's just a lot of us who don't agree with you! Wild I know

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by rexpop »

remarkEon wrote: post #240
xoac wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We can either hold ourselves back an an endless and futile journey on solving the human condition of poverty and inequality, or we can explore the stars. It's an easy choice. Wait... Are you suggesting that "exploring the stars" is less of an endless and futile journey than dealing with poverty and inequality?

No, not at all. I am saying that there we never be a world in which poverty and inequality do not exist, unless we are all dead. Maybe it's because I'm an American, but this perspective that grand adventure and exploration is pointless or not worth it is totally foreign to me.

I'm an American, too, and justice-for-all is my watchword—not this "grand adventure" costume for self-aggrandizement.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by thfuran »

al_borland wrote: post #65
GolfPopper wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking for myself (who has been fascinated with the space program since I was a small child), any joy I might feel around Artemis II feels tainted, by the immense amount of pork involved (SLS is called "Senate Launch System" for good reason) to the point where Artemis is more corporate welfare that happens to involve the Moon than a real space program, and by my belief that it is intended to be little more than a q…

I ran across this video[0] yesterday with Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about how it’s always been political. The first moon landing was more about global politics than science. As a child you likely weren’t concerned about that side of it, or were shielded from it. It isn’t always the purist motivations that push the human race forward, but forward it moves us. [0] https://youtu.be/j_AlXChA9F4

Even if the Apollo program was similarly politically motivated, it at least was seriously cutting edge science and engineering. I mean, there were many people born before the Wright brothers’ first flight watching the moon landing on TV. Basically repeating Apollo 8’s much less iconic flyby decades later is obviously going to be less impressive.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by rexpop »

b00ty4breakfast wrote: post #16
nasretdinov wrote: post #9

I like how most people's reactions at this point are "yeah, whatever", as if it's every day that humans observe the far side of the moon with a naked eye through a window :). We do know what it looks like and we have photos from the surface, yes, but seeing the reaction from real people who're actually there does hit different, at least for me

it's amazing, but I'll refer you to Gil Scott-Heron for my feelings on the matter A rat done bit my sister Nell With whitey on the moon Her face and arms began to swell And whitey's on the moon I can't pay no doctor bills But whitey's on the moon Ten years from now I'll be payin' still While whitey's on the moon The man just upped my rent last night Cause whitey's on the moon No hot water, no toilets, no lights But w…

Apparently Artemis 2 Victor Glover listened to this weekly on his commute to NASA.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Post by kikokikokiko »

fortran77 wrote: post #309
thegrim33 wrote: post #172

It's pretty depressing that on a corner of the internet that's supposed to be a gathering of tech/geeks/nerds/stem people, discussing topics that "good hackers would find interesting", it's seemingly impossible to have a single thread about something like this that isn't almost entirely negative or political bickering.

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HN is heavily populated by and biased towards left left leaning west coast IT adjacent people. But it still makes me wonder for how long can the US keep it's dominance on the world stage with so many people that think this way in positions of power on the arguably most important econonomic/social area from now on.
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