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Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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I'm not being a hater, but we landed on the moon 55+ years ago and now we're doing a flyby with 35+ year-old engine tech. It's good that we're doing something but we should be doing better.

You’re not seeing better engines because there aren’t any. We are reaching the limits of physics. That’s why we are working on alternatives like refueling in space or reusable ships. The Artemis missions are testing things that we still have a lot of area to improve upon — materials (a huge one), international standards for things like docking ports, computing, radiation safety, and a lot more.

Did we really need to spend $90 billion and send people past the Moon to troubleshoot Bluetooth?[1]

Sharing because this seems to capture the je ne sais quoi that seems off about Artemis for me.

1. https://github.com/RICLAMER/Artemis_II_2026

NASA's Artemis II Live Views from Orion, 04 - Day 1-2 - 03-04-2026 - 1645-Transcript-EN.txt: "03/04/2026 - 18:57:27 (-3 TMZ) | 01:23:22:27 (Artemis Clock) "No joy seeing the device in the list of available devices when I attempt to re-pair it after doing the Bluetooth forget."

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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> Focus on the people who foment and benefit from this division and distraction your comment is entirely politcal, i.e. contributing more to the problem. qui bono? we for sure don't bono.

Choosing one (deliberately ambiguous) line to label the comment “entirely political” is the kind of thinking that explains why tribalism has been so effective.

"Focus on the people who foment and benefit from this division and distraction"

is a political statement. It says: "don't talk about the actual issue, instead let's go after the enemies, we know who they are." It doesn't say "let's find them", it assumes we know who they are.

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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I just need to say it's an extremely huge bummer how much cynicism and negativity there is about this mission. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Neither was Apollo. We are all painfully aware of the things that make it imperfect. It's still joyous and exciting. Try to let it be.

Most of us feel that way, but that comes with a desire to avoid engaging with unhappy internet denizens finding company in their misery. Remember that social media is a distortion of reality driven by whoever is willing to dedicate the most time and effort to dominating it.

I checked out some subreddits on the mission, and left pretty quickly for that reason. It's nice to find some positivity and wonder at it. I love what Artemis II is doing, found the launch very exciting and a little nerve wracking, and can't wait until they get even closer to the Moon.

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> Is there really less "fat on the bone" though? What metric are you tracking for that and what are the historical norms? It’s just my experience over the last 15 years. If it doesn’t align with yours, that’s nice to know. > "forcing them to live on a shorter and shorter term outlook" -> social media? Sure, but it could be lots of other things like 24hr news or the emergence of the gig economy. > Isn't "Focus on the…

> It’s just my experience over the last 15 years. If it doesn’t align with yours, that’s nice to know. I know it's the narrative that times are bad. But me, my coworkers, my neighbors, my local mall, etc. all seem to be doing really great. And look, moon mission! I would think that there are a lot of people in tech who are doing better than ever. We've also seen layoffs and I know it's hard for people to find a job.…

How often do you find yourself wondering how you'll be able to pay rent and your car payment during the month? What happens if you need to get dental work? Does that shift your calculus for expenses day to day? Not it in 2021 or whatever, but like this past week?

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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Latest published image of the moon: https://www.nasa.gov/image-detail/amf-art002e009006/ Photo and video gallery: https://www.nasa.gov/gallery/journey-to-the-moon/

Will Elon set up a lot of colorful and blinking billboards to make it less grey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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I am not a Christian, but it was arguably the Christian value system which forged the government and institutions that made these achievements possible. Such progress happens only in high trust societies.

Actually a lot of the enlightenment ideas (which our government is based on) came from native American critiques of European societies. Read The Dawn of Everything for the details.

This is a bold claim that would do better than a throwaway source.

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The Renaissance and Enlightenment were anti-religious ideals, of the power of mankind over the gods.

Yes, exactly. Being anti-religion does not mean throwing away the entire value system.

> Being anti-religion does not mean throwing away the entire value system

It does mean being deeply sceptical of anyone importing a religious value system, or building religious institutions.

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I'm sure it's the flat-mooners downvoting.

The moon IS flat! Just like the Sun and the Earth.

Well, the Moon, Sun, and Earth are all flatter than most surfaces in my house, and I call those surfaces flat, so yeah...

Re: Artemis II crew see first glimpse of far side of Moon [video]

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I just need to say it's an extremely huge bummer how much cynicism and negativity there is about this mission. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Neither was Apollo. We are all painfully aware of the things that make it imperfect. It's still joyous and exciting. Try to let it be.

Most of us feel that way, but that comes with a desire to avoid engaging with unhappy internet denizens finding company in their misery. Remember that social media is a distortion of reality driven by whoever is willing to dedicate the most time and effort to dominating it.

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