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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by Ar-Curunir »

isubkhankulov wrote: post #110
pwarner wrote: post #59

I hope the aviators are OK, and also hope whoever they were bombing are also OK. I do wonder if Iran finds them first, will they treat them better than the US treated survivors of the ship sunk by a US torpedo in the Indiana Ocean?

The crew of the IRIS Dena were warned twice by the US to abandon ship according to a report from one of the sailor’s father. They refused. Not sure if it’s possible to treat enemies better than that. And I doubt the Iranians will treat a US pilot well. Look at how they treat their own citizens.

The US Secretary of Defense is the one declaring that no quarter will be given.

You don’t have to project your own shortcomings to other people.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by functional_dev »

rurp wrote: post #307
fooey wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New reporting that an A-10 ~was also shot down~ has also gone down (unconfirmed if it was shot down) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/world/iran-war-trump... > A second Air Force combat plane crashed in the Persian Gulf region on Friday, and the lone pilot was safely rescued, according to two U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters. The A-10 Warthog attack plane went d…

On top of these cases there is all of the aircraft that has been destroyed while grounded. The high tech AWACS getting blown up was a big hit, among others. The losses are likely much worse than we know since the military has been trying to keep a lid on most of them.

yes, this part I find to be most interesting.. how many losses before the picture changes for the public?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by mathgradthrow »

sheeshkebab wrote: post #758
mathgradthrow wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) The US has run 13,000 missions over Iran in the last month. Thats a lot of targets. 2) The initial US degradation of Iraqi capabilities was much much greater in gulf war 1. 3) F15s are not stealth fighters. 4) This is 35 years later. 5) "strategic bombing" of air defenses is mostly accomplished with our cruise missiles. We'll take out any air defenses we find, but you don't fly non-stealth planes over SAM batterie…

It’s very likely their initial shock now wore off, and they got resupplied by putin and xi. We might start seeing much more damage going forward. US hasn’t fought a proxy war of this kind in many decades.

Putin can barely fight his own war, and how are you proposing that China supply Iran? You can't rebuild capability in a day.

Do you want to give odds to your proposition that this is going to turn around in the IRGC's favor?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by nycdatasci »

There’s a lot of speculation about how this was achieved, but little mention of the likely weapon system that was used: https://israel-alma.org/the-growing-air-defense-capabilities...

The SA-67 is essentially a hybrid surface-to-air missile and loitering drone that operates like an airborne mine. It’s a pretty innovative weapon: instead of relying on a fast, highly detectable rocket motor, it uses a small gas turbine and passive infrared seeker to silently loiter in a combat zone and then ambush aircraft without ever triggering their traditional radar warning receivers.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by firebot »

lejalv wrote: post #734

So how is this not flagged, whereas this other post lasted literally minutes before being flagged? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47612053 75000+ palestinians killed, arguably one of the defining crimes of our age are not worth HN discussion (“politics”) but one F15E shot down in a war of choice is (apparently, “tech”)?

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by quantum_state »

bijowo1676 wrote: post #357
ttul wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention the multiple THAAD radars taken offline. Those are $500M assets - and only 8 exist in the world. 24,000 precise transceivers all liquid cooled… not available on Amazon for next day deliver either.

a single AN/FPS-132 radar costs $1.1 bln, not $500m. And Iran stuck 17 of the CENCCOM sites hosting radars of all kinds across Qarar, Bahrain, Iraq, UAE, Saudi, Jordan, Israel, etc). Total cost is so much bigger, it is staggering. The whole CENTCOM is blind basically, as well as Iron Dome which relied on these radars - all blind now, in addition to long-range early nuke detection to protect CONUS is also blind. in ad…

These very expensive toys are the reasons of the to be $1.5 trillion DoW budget. It’s insane and not sustainable.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by Betelbuddy »

ttul wrote: post #339
rurp wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On top of these cases there is all of the aircraft that has been destroyed while grounded. The high tech AWACS getting blown up was a big hit, among others. The losses are likely much worse than we know since the military has been trying to keep a lid on most of them.

Not to mention the multiple THAAD radars taken offline. Those are $500M assets - and only 8 exist in the world. 24,000 precise transceivers all liquid cooled… not available on Amazon for next day deliver either.

The problems with inventory of THAAD and similar missile systems is actually quite serious: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47504505

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by diordiderot »

nmbrskeptix wrote: post #925
markus_zhang wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My concern is that other countries can aid Iran with weapons in a direct and indirect way. There is no guarantee to block the railroads from East and the shipments from North.

Why are you concerned that the clear victim of foreign aggression get help? They don't need it though. Our top brass knew this war is stupid twenty years ago. Without nukes we'll lose this war and badly.

> victim of foreign aggression

Excuse us of being unsympathetic to the greatest state sponser of terrorism in history.

The Muslim country all other Muslim countries love to hate.

The only real theocracy left in the world.

Wannabe North Korea.

The country that killed 30,000 progressive protestors in a few days.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by doublerabbit »

i_love_retros wrote: post #869
lejalv wrote: post #734

So how is this not flagged, whereas this other post lasted literally minutes before being flagged? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47612053 75000+ palestinians killed, arguably one of the defining crimes of our age are not worth HN discussion (“politics”) but one F15E shot down in a war of choice is (apparently, “tech”)?

The obvious answer I am not allowed to say but it consists of two words and the second word is "money". Sorry but it's true.

And training AI. How else were they going to get real data to feed "AI-Weaponry".

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by diordiderot »

lejalv wrote: post #734

So how is this not flagged, whereas this other post lasted literally minutes before being flagged? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47612053 75000+ palestinians killed, arguably one of the defining crimes of our age are not worth HN discussion (“politics”) but one F15E shot down in a war of choice is (apparently, “tech”)?

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