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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by BigTTYGothGF »

drnick1 wrote: post #699
ifyoubuildit wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ignoring the spicier broader debate of if the whole Iran campaign was the right call or not How spicy of a debate is that really? How many people outside of the admin and the dwindling hardcore trump base actually thought this was a good idea?

I think that you will find that many people think that we ought to solve the 50 year old problem in the Mideast once and for all. Now that the Russians are busy, that Venezuela is down, that Syria has fallen, and that the Chinese are minding their own business is a good time to decapitate Iran. Also Cuba is next.

So you're saying you want a solution, and you want it to be a final one?

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Post by tootie »

KaiserPro wrote: post #867
swyx wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

he what? this is on the record?

https://www.war.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/4434... > Our response? We will keep pressing. We will keep pushing, keep advancing, no quarter, no mercy for our enemies. March 13, 2026

He probably said "no quarter" because it sounds cool and doesn't really know what it means. The most ironic part is how he is an avowed Christian warrior and says "no mercy" when mercy figures pretty prominently in Christianity.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by BigTTYGothGF »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #244
jmyeet wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are 4 players in this war and they all have very different goals and "victory" conditions. 1. Israel wants to ruin Iran permanently, to turn it into Somalia 2.0, meaning a quasi-state with no organized, central government. Were they to succeed in this it would be a humantarian disaster the likes of which we haven't seen since probably WW2. Tens of millions of refugees that will probably collapse surrounding cou…

Not sure how the US comes back from this. Who will trust US treaties going forward?

> Who will trust US treaties going forward?

Who trusted them before?

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Post by ssijak »

hereme888 wrote: post #596
eek2121 wrote: post #579

I see a ton of bickering, however, I simply have to ask the question: how can anyone justify the United States of America and Israel attacking ANY country? It isn't our job, nor is it Israel's, to try and be the world police. People are dying, and because of a certain corpse-to-be controlling MY country, the world is beginning to suffer and it is going to get so much worse. Some economists are saying gas rationing wi…

Clueless? Iran has been attacking many countries, including US and Israel, for 47 years. It's not a secret.

When has Iran attacked the USA?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by tootie »

MarkMarine wrote: post #21

Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.

Seems like a good time to dust off Trump's policy on POWs

“He’s not a war hero ... I like people who weren’t captured.”

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Post by ranyume »

itsthecourier wrote: post #898
cenamus wrote: post #825

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You don't see anything about Russias invasion either. 1.5 million casualties and counting.

that's exactly my perspective on it. it's not about the ukranian, sudanese, Syrian, Irani or Yemeni. those lives seem to be way less worthy of press judging for the coverage the left want to put in Palestinian people. it doesn't follow the principle of equal value on lives but a political agenda and mountains of useful trend followers

Let's not confuse things. One thing is lives lost at a war, another thing is lives lost at a genocide.

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Post by ssijak »

hereme888 wrote: post #651
shevy-java wrote: post #617

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is pretty obvious that the current war was started by Israel and USA. I somewhat understand Israel's agenda and objective, even if evil and selfish depending on the point of view (or selfish, for Netanyahu to avoid legal scrutiny while acting as prime minister). I don't understand the USA attacking here at all. With rising prices I think Trump should pay compensation to the rest of the world for his decision here.…

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With how many countries Iran started direct war with, even with this religious rulers in power?

With how many countries Israel started direct war with? With how many countries USA started direct war with? (thousand of miles away and contents apart)

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Post by [deleted] »

glidefarrow wrote: post #780
thatsfunnylol wrote: post #724

The Hormuz issue proves that the west never had an ability to economically sanction Iran, au contraire Iran can actually sanction us - and they are. This is what real sanctions look like. The west broke the deal, attacked like terrorists, and are now being sanctioned.

Correction - Israel and the US broke the deal, and now the rest of us in the west are also being sanctioned

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