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Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

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Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

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I listened to his podcast episode on the Sequoia podcast a few days ago. Interestingly, his argument was "we don't need middle managers" and he plans to have all 6000 employees eventually report to him.

In other words, companies don't need managers anymore. Except for one manager. Him.

Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

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I went to a meeting with a prototype once. It was a single happy path with stubbed data, coded in the most naïve way possible. It was, after all, a prototype just to give a feel for what the interactions would be like. It put enormous pressure on delivery, since leadership had "already seen it working, how hard could it be to make it to production?" Never again.

I wouldn’t say “Never again”, unless you put in the caveat that you shouldn’t do this again for the same leaders.

Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

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I went to a meeting with a prototype once. It was a single happy path with stubbed data, coded in the most naïve way possible. It was, after all, a prototype just to give a feel for what the interactions would be like. It put enormous pressure on delivery, since leadership had "already seen it working, how hard could it be to make it to production?" Never again.

Did the same thing early in my career. Built a quick bootstrap website with like 5 pages and all the data was static. The backend was a year off. It was great for end users but the non-IT managers were dumb. Same issue about seeing something working and expecting the world.

Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

#35

I listened to his podcast episode on the Sequoia podcast a few days ago. Interestingly, his argument was "we don't need middle managers" and he plans to have all 6000 employees eventually report to him. In other words, companies don't need managers anymore. Except for one manager. Him.

I think Google tried this a while ago (flattening the org).

It didn’t work, so they went back to having managers.

Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

#36

I listened to his podcast episode on the Sequoia podcast a few days ago. Interestingly, his argument was "we don't need middle managers" and he plans to have all 6000 employees eventually report to him. In other words, companies don't need managers anymore. Except for one manager. Him.

I think Google tried this a while ago (flattening the org). It didn’t work, so they went back to having managers.

They did, I actually worked there at the time, my manager had 140 directs. It obviously didn't work.

But this time it will work. Because, AI, of course.

Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

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post #33

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I went to a meeting with a prototype once. It was a single happy path with stubbed data, coded in the most naïve way possible. It was, after all, a prototype just to give a feel for what the interactions would be like. It put enormous pressure on delivery, since leadership had "already seen it working, how hard could it be to make it to production?" Never again.

I wouldn’t say “Never again”, unless you put in the caveat that you shouldn’t do this again for the same leaders.

You still need the slides to communicate risk, cost, delivery estimates etc. a great way to get your own team and move up in the org

Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

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I’ve been in IT for 25 years, it has happened to me once, unfortunately it isn’t that uncommon.

In the USA at least sure. This was in a country with lightly better employment protections so it’s quite uncommon.

Counterintuitively, systems with heavier employment protections can make it more common to cut recent hires.

Employment protections usually come with a probationary period before they kick in, so employers can remove bad hires early. This creates an incentive to remove new hires before their probationary period is up if they're showing any signs they might not be the best candidate for the job.

Even when new hires are good and the company wants to keep them, heavy employment protections favor longer term employees. If the business environment changes and they need to reduce headcount their hands may be tied in ways that require cutting the new hires before the tenured employees. This happens a lot in labor unions, too, where tenured employees have greater standing than new hires when push comes to shove and someone needs to go, regardless of performance.

Re: Jack Dorsey says Block employees now bring prototypes, not slides, to meetings

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Google tried this a while ago (flattening the org). It didn’t work, so they went back to having managers.

They did, I actually worked there at the time, my manager had 140 directs. It obviously didn't work. But this time it will work. Because, AI, of course.

Wow, holy smokes… 140 directs. Kind of curious: what did the differences look like on a day to day in that sort of org structure?
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