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Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

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Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

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This isn't surprising. What is not mentioned is that Claude Code also found one thousand false positive bugs, which developers spent three months to rule out.

The lesson here shouldn't be that Claude Code is useless, but that it's a powerful tool in the hands of the right people.

The lesson or the hype mantra?

Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

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> Nicholas has found hundreds more potential bugs in the Linux kernel, but the bottleneck to fixing them is the manual step of humans sorting through all of Claude’s findings No, the problem is sorting out thousands of false positives from claude code's reports. 5 out of 1000+ reports to be valid is statistically worse than running a fuzzer on the codebase. Just sayin'

> On the kernel security list we've seen a huge bump of reports. We were between 2 and 3 per week maybe two years ago, then reached probably 10 a week over the last year with the only difference being only AI slop, and now since the beginning of the year we're around 5-10 per day depending on the days (fridays and tuesdays seem the worst). Now most of these reports are correct, to the point that we had to bring in mo…

> https://syzbot.org/upstream

I stand corrected.

Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

#64

This isn't surprising. What is not mentioned is that Claude Code also found one thousand false positive bugs, which developers spent three months to rule out.

The lesson here shouldn't be that Claude Code is useless, but that it's a powerful tool in the hands of the right people.

I'm growing allergic to the hype train and the slop. I've watched real-life talks about people that sent some prompt to Claude Code and then proudly present something mediocre that they didn't make themselves to a whole audience as if they'd invented the warm water, and that just makes me weary.

But at the same time, it has transformed my work from writing everything bit of code myself, to me writing the cool and complex things while giving directions to a helper to sort out the boring grunt work, and it's amazingly capable at that. It _is_ a hugely powerful tool.

But haters only see red, and lovers see everything through pink glasses.

Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

#65

This isn't surprising. What is not mentioned is that Claude Code also found one thousand false positive bugs, which developers spent three months to rule out.

The lesson here shouldn't be that Claude Code is useless, but that it's a powerful tool in the hands of the right people.

Unfortunately, also in the hands of the __wrong__ people.

Maybe even more so, because who is going to wade through all those false positives? A bad actor is maybe more likely to do that.

Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

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post #57

Pasting a big batch of new code and asking Claude "what have I forgotten? Where are the bugs?" is a very persuasive on-ramp for developers new to AI. It spots threading & distributed system bugs that would have taken hours to uncover before, and where there isn't any other easy tooling. I bet there's loads of cryptocurrency implementations being pored over right now - actual money on the table.

> Pasting a big batch of new code and asking Claude "what have I forgotten? Where are the bugs?"

It's actually the main way I use CC/codex.

Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

#68

This isn't surprising. What is not mentioned is that Claude Code also found one thousand false positive bugs, which developers spent three months to rule out.

The lesson here shouldn't be that Claude Code is useless, but that it's a powerful tool in the hands of the right people.

The same could be said about a Roulette wheel set before a seasoned gambler

Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

#69
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It cost me ~$750 to find a tricky privilege escalation bug in a complex codebase where I knew the rough specs but didn't have the exploit. There are certainly still many other bugs like that in the codebase, and it would cost $100k-$1MM to explore the rest of the system that deeply with models at or above the capability of Opus 4.6. It's definitely possible to do a basic pass for much less (I do this with autopen.dev…

This is where the Codex and Claude Code Pro/Max plans are excellent. I rarely run into the limits of Codex. If I do, I wait and come back and have it resume once the window has expired.

Claude and Codex pro/max subs aren't supposed to be used for commercial/enterprise development so its not really an option for execs in enterprise. They need to take into account API costs.

At my F500 company execs are very wary of the costs of most of these tools and its always top of mind. We have dashboards and gather tons of internal metrics on which tools devs are using and how much they are costing.

Re: Claude Code Found a Linux Vulnerability Hidden for 23 Years

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post #54

I'm interested in the implications for the open source movement, specifically about security concerns. Anyone know is there has been a study about how well Claude Code works on closed source (but decompiled) source?

> Claude Code works on closed source (but decompiled) source

Very likely not nearly as well, unless there are many open source libraries in use and/or the language+patterns used are extremely popular. The really huge win for something like the Linux kernel and other popular OSS is that the source appears in the training data, a lot. And many versions. So providing the source again and saying "find X" is primarily bringing into focus things it's already seen during training, with little novelty beyond the updates that happened after knowledge cutoff.

Giving it a closed source project containing a lot of novel code means it only has the language and it's "intuition" to work from, which is a far greater ask.

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