Live data from Hacker News

Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

insideevs.com

61–70 of 172 posts

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#61
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best pronoun joke, ever.

It could be, except it's not factually correct (and an element of truth is necesssary for good humor). GP was talking about Tesla , not about Elon. The correct pronoun for a company is surely "they"

Shouldn't be "it" ? for the company itself

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#65

The figures quoted here are old, since EV sales have gotten a massive boost from spiking oil prices. The actual figures aren't out yet but anecdotal evidence at least in Australia suggests sales in March (across all brands, not just Tesla) doubled from February. That said, for Tesla this is only a bandaid, since they have absolutely nothing in the consumer pipeline beyond the current increasingly uncompetitive offeri…

Didn't BYD just lay off 100k people?

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#66
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Elon's trajectory has been absolutely unbelievable since 2019 or so. Talk about a guy who cratered his whole reputation. It's a shame.

What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

What changed is that he doesn't have a publicist filtering his nonsense anymore.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#67

This is all so frustrating. Tesla could have easily been an American auto maker generational success story. Instead they’re working hard to undermine their own success, turn their brand toxic, and even design vehicles that are unappealing to key purchasing demographics (Cybertruck).

I think Tesla as a company is doing the right moves. The management (excluding Elon) seems solid and smart.

The problem is that we often attach a company or a larger idea to a single person, even when it is much much bigger than that individual. People started boycotting Tesla because of Elon Musk, without considering that Tesla is actually thousands of engineers, workers, and managers. And majority of decisions are not done by Elons.

But people tend to think in terms of heroes and anti heroes. Cesar Chavez is another example of how this dynamic plays out.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#68
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

I don't agree after reading Walter Isaacson's excellent biography of Elon. It's deeply unfortunate that the book is already a few years old, I'd love and buy the hell out of a 2nd edition that is updated with the last few years. Obviously it's always been latent in Elon, but he was a pretty bog standard lightly-if-apolitical silicon valley startup guy for most of his adult life. The free speech erosion under the Bide…

Free speech erosion under Biden... can you elaborate?

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#69
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

I think the vast majority of people that operate at that level of success have a similar mask, but they’re more successful in managing it. What caused Elon to lose his ability to manage it is subject for debate, I personally believe he discovered drugs in 2019 and the rest is history.

He brought good things due to high-conviction bold moves though, like democratizing EVs, reusable rockets, and most of all, actual internet in airplanes.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

#70

This is all so frustrating. Tesla could have easily been an American auto maker generational success story. Instead they’re working hard to undermine their own success, turn their brand toxic, and even design vehicles that are unappealing to key purchasing demographics (Cybertruck).

Yes, Elon's trajectory has been absolutely unbelievable since 2019 or so. Talk about a guy who cratered his whole reputation. It's a shame.

What did he do specifically to crater his reputation?

Is it his politics? He seems to have reasonable beliefs there. It's not like he's been supporting Trump unconditionally. He doesn't always agree with Trump. Is it because of his stance in favor of free speech? How is that a bad thing? As someone who doesn't like any side of politics, I don't get it.

Post reply on HN