F-15E jet shot down over Iran • Hacker News Board

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by srean » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:19 AM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #555

rustyhancock wrote: post #330

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I don't think we'll see anything close to reliable reporting any time soon. The story of whether Iran had a nuclear program has been reported every which way but loose for the past 6 months. By the time Trump started pushing that they were close to a nuke again, those that claimed he was wrong 6 months ago and the nuclear program was intact. Had started claiming it was in fact destroyed. Gosh that sentence is hard en…

That Iran had a nuclear program was not in dispute. It was regulated under international supervision based on the terms of Obama's agreement with Iran, which Trump promptly tore up because he has the mental capacity of a fourth-grader. That Iran was on the verge of building bombs was far from clear. Khameini had previously issued a fatwa against doing so, on the grounds that it would be haram, or un-Islamic. All sign…

To that add what Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard said about Iranian nuclear bombs -- no indications that they have one or are building one.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by bigbugbag » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:21 AM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #688

MarkMarine wrote: post #21

Military aviators train for this, being alone behind enemy lines (look up SERE school if you’re curious, one of the craziest training courses outside of special forces) and there is a special force just for aviator recovery behind enemy lines, US AirForce Pararescue. Hopefully they’ll get the aviators back quickly, the last thing our country needs is American hostages making this ridiculous war harder to stop.

> American hostages Military personnel captured as prisoners of war are not hostages. Unlike embassy personnel held hostage during the 1979 revolution, it's unclear if military POWs have any value to leverage against the US, considering how its leader feels about about "people who get captured" and "they knew what they signed up for". We're only hearing about this so the administration can get ahead of the narrative…

to have POW, you first need to have a W, but to have a W you need to go through appropriate legal channels which trump has specifically avoided to be able to launch this collection of war crimes assaulting foreign countries along israel and causing havoc on a global scale.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by NorwegianDude » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:29 AM UTC

roadbuster wrote: post #116

During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

It's especially bad considering the US had already taken out 100 % of Iran's military capabilities, according to the official statements.

What a clown show...

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by nkbjgvnm » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:40 AM UTC

Good. Americans need to pay a very severe price for the evil they have unleased on the world. Anything less, and this lunacy will happen again in the future.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by nkbjgvnm » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:41 AM UTC

pwarner wrote: post #59

I hope the aviators are OK, and also hope whoever they were bombing are also OK. I do wonder if Iran finds them first, will they treat them better than the US treated survivors of the ship sunk by a US torpedo in the Indiana Ocean?

I find it hard to have any sympathy for the American pilots that are dropping bombs on schoolgirls.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by bigbugbag » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:44 AM UTC

toasty228 wrote: post #513

gambutin wrote: post #379

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Lmao everytime that number is posted it's multiplied by 3. I even read 150 000 dead last week

not sure what you find funny about children being massively killed at an unprecedented rate by an army that deems itself the most ethical or why you conflate children killed with total estimated death.

in september 2025 the number was at least ~20000, for the obvious reason that we do not the actual toll and that it is without a doubt much more. and let's forget the injured and permanently disabled, the consequences of disease, lack of food and clean water, living in permanent fear, being traumatized and so on.

this is not a laughing matter.

https://onu.delegfrance.org/the-conflict-in-gaza-has-been-pa...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_Gaza_war_on_chil...

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by alkonaut » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:45 AM UTC

andrewflnr wrote: post #684

swyx wrote: post #392

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he what? this is on the record?

For what it's worth, he probably didn't know what he was saying. (slop has been around longer than LLMs)

It’s the one constant about this administration: you’re always wondering ”is this incompetence by not knowing what they’re saying or incompetence where they know what they’re saying”

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by bigbugbag » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:47 AM UTC

thatsfunnylol wrote: post #724

The Hormuz issue proves that the west never had an ability to economically sanction Iran, au contraire Iran can actually sanction us - and they are. This is what real sanctions look like. The west broke the deal, attacked like terrorists, and are now being sanctioned.

who do you call "the west", please leave us out of the nonsense from israel and the usa, we have nothing to do with this madness and refuse to be a part of it.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by LtWorf » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:49 AM UTC

ilovecake1984 wrote: post #813

rchaud wrote: post #688

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> American hostages Military personnel captured as prisoners of war are not hostages. Unlike embassy personnel held hostage during the 1979 revolution, it's unclear if military POWs have any value to leverage against the US, considering how its leader feels about about "people who get captured" and "they knew what they signed up for". We're only hearing about this so the administration can get ahead of the narrative…

Given the war is illegal I don’t think they are POWs.

Yeah I guess they'd legally just be terrorists.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by chakintosh » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 11:04 AM UTC

The United States will never understand that while they are a technologically advanced army, they will consistently get smoked by countries with a far more rudimentary arsenal. It's been happening in every war since Vietnam.

The US could probably steamroll Russia in a week, because both countries will try to deploy the latest tech they have, and the US blows Russia out of the water. But in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia ... etc, their stealth jets and raptors stand no chance with weapons so old that those new systems didn't even account for.