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The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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No, the point isn't just to stop legal action against ICE, it's also to go after anyone who posts drone footage that goes viral. Party of free speech, btw.

We should make a website outside the US for posting drone footage of ICE anonymously.

Put it in Sweden[0]. At least you'd have de jure source protection.

[0]: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Källskydd

Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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How does this work if they are not clearly defined on a map? Usually TFRs are shown on drone maps so you know where you can fly. If I am flying my drone and an unmarked ICE vehicle drives within half a mile am I in trouble?

This administration is overstepping legal bound left and right. If they want you in trouble, you'll be in trouble. Appeals to law, even if successful, will take too long.

And inversely, if you break the law, and they 'like' you - then you are freed or never even charged in the first place.

Land of the free/saviour of the free world.

Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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Flying a drone within 1/2 mile of ICE vehicles, which may be unmarked, is illegal? You can be flying a drone and if an unmarked ICE vehicle drives close enough, without warning, you have now broken serious FAA laws? This isn’t the kind of restriction that gets passed when the people making the rules care about being fair or consistent. It’s a power grab.

It isnt about the flying. This is about ICE now being able to take down any drone footage and arrest those who post it. They can also obtain extensive search warrants for uploaders, giving them an investigative path into the lives of ICE protest groups.

Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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More than one or two, if memory serves correct. How many people died under the totalitarian regimes that preceded them? These oppressive regimes did not start in a vacuum.

>How many people died under the totalitarian regimes that preceded them? These oppressive regimes did not start in a vacuum. You're proving my point. Political violence just leads to a cycle of more political violence and/or totalitarianism. The Chinese Communists, if you recall, were violently put down by the Nationalists in the civil war. Starting political violence to stop the "fascists", just condemns your societ…

Violence is coming whether you like it or not. People are already struggling and food prices will only go up this year given the buffoonery with antagonizing Iran. If we're going to have violence either way, I sure know where I'd prefer it be directed. I leave it as an exercise to the student to make up their mind on where it should be. I'm sure the answers are Legion.

Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance. Support for such measures (welfare, healthcare, unionization, high taxes etc) is usually low among Americans. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/welfare-cuts...

The right is rising all across European countries that have all of these things.

There is lot of investment going in to fanning those flames - just look at the way the edges of this are discussed in the Epstein files.

Here in the UK, it is amazing to follow just how much money has been pumped into the various 'right of the Conservatives' parties for the last 15 years, while it might seem like a grass roots movement, the majority of the cash has been coming from those with vast wealth inside and outside the UK.

Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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The NOTAM reads: "ALL UNMANNED ACFT ARE PROHIBITED FROM FLYING WITHIN A STAND-OFF DISTANCE OF 3000FT LATERALLY AND 1000FT ABOVE." That is somewhat narrowly defined. I'm sure you can still effectively film them from 1100ft. further: "FACILITIES AND MOBILE ASSETS, INCLUDING VESSELS AND GROUND VEHICLE CONVOYS AND THEIR ASSOCIATED ESCORTS" I think you'd easily beat this language in court. "Please show us where 'mobile as…

You cannot fly drones over 400ft above the ground (with some very narrow exceptions). So this isn't narrow, it's extremely broad. You can't read such rules in a vacuum without knowing their context.

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Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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Are you talking about the razor wire that the supreme court allowed the administration to remove from the Texas border? If so, a little disingenuous to say fences and barriors when talking about razor wire. If not, please cite your sources so we can all be informed.

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Sure, but I would consider mines laid in a strait a barrier or fence, and I would consider the radiation at Chernobyl a barrier to entry, and I would consider a hedgerow a barrier or fence as well. I think it's important to specify the type of barrier or fence when discussing the removal of it, it's a long gray spectrum and not black and white.

It it generally legal in the USA to put a fence around my property, but it is not generally legal to put razor wire around my property, so even the US govt thinks there's a difference.

It's important to consider the words and the portrayal of events when discussing politically charged topics.

Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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Your comment reads like: "This blanket prohibition is justified, because any drone could potentially be dangerous or appear dangerous, and DHS deserves unique and special legal privileges to trample on your rights for some reason." If you intended something different, it's not sufficiently obvious. The most-charitable twist I can come up with is: "In addition to the first amendment, could the second amendment also be…

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Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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Your comment reads like: "This blanket prohibition is justified, because any drone could potentially be dangerous or appear dangerous, and DHS deserves unique and special legal privileges to trample on your rights for some reason." If you intended something different, it's not sufficiently obvious. The most-charitable twist I can come up with is: "In addition to the first amendment, could the second amendment also be…

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I had a much longer bit about your factually incorrect framing of the incident with Pretti, but I'll just say that it's really insane that we still have people here on HN that are repeating lies by the state to cover what was clearly an extrajudicial murder. The video evidence cannot be more clear.

Re: The FAA’s flight restriction for drones is an attempt to criminalize filming ICE

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Blue States are actually extremely blue cities surrounded by red counties. If you split California into 10 states, most will be red.

> If you split California into 10 states, most will be red. Why do you assume the split should be fair? The rural areas can be one state, each city can be a separate one. That would fly, right?

We gotta imagine a few steps further in time and toss in some game-theory.

Imagine a big swing-state split between Yellow and Purple parties. It's legislature is controlled by Yellow, and they pull a sneaky: They partition into 10x Small Yellow states (5% pop each) and one Big Purple state (50% pop) Let's also assume the whole effort somehow evaded requirements in the state's constitution, referendums, etc.

At first glance, you might think Yellow has "won" by adding more/safer seats on the federal level, right?

Except now the folks in Big Purple are kinda pissed, and they control themselves now. They could choose to split again, leaving things as 10x Small Yellow and 10x Small Blue. That puts the partisan balance is back at square one, except for a shit-ton of disruption and pain and a bunch of Yellow politicians are out of a job. So did they really win? Knowing the likely outcome, would they have tried anyway?

In short, it's very different from district gerrymandering. For starters, every division becomes independent, and it won't even happen if residents are asking tough questions like "Then how do I get my water from the river!?" It'll be a very slow and very deliberate process stretched across multiple election cycles.

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