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Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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"They've betrayed my trust but I wish them well" is an interesting statement.

"I wish them well" is an idiom for "I never want to see them again". Kinda like "bless your heart", which means nothing of the sort.

Why do non-Southerners keep insisting on this? Bless your heart can be said sincerely or ironically, like pretty much any other phrase.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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I'm getting the impression that a lot of people in this thread think this is because they violated an open-source license and saying things to the effect of, "they're just the ones who got caught". I also thought that was the scandal initially. (And when it comes to license violations, yes, there's absolutely more where that came from.) But that's just the cherry on top. I don't think they're being thrown out because…

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Yes, the way this is being pushed online seems like there is a competitor involved. If not in the initial disclosure, then in the daily rehashing of it.

It's also still unclear to me how much fraud they actually were involved in, and how much of the fault falls on them. SOC2 Type II and ISO 27001 are not audited by them, but by actual accredited auditors (apparently mainly Accorp and Gradient), which must have been just as complicit/negligent. As customers of Delve are free to chose their auditors I'm wondering how this hasn't blown up earlier.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Great to see them take action. I'm waiting for cambioml next. A married couple notorious for fraud that apparently relocated to ME as a result. That's outside of the terrible treatment of ripping off interviewees (see: https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1n7cdua/got_a_devop...). Won't even comment on other stories I've heard related to them screwing over employees/cofounders.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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I came across a top tier compliance auditor doing the same thing recently. I tried to talk to them about it and rather than approaching this from a constructive point of view they wanted to know the name of the company that got certified so they could decertify them and essentially asked me to break my NDA. That wasn't going to happen, I wanted to have a far more structural conversation about this and how they probab…

It's auditing, nobody that is good at doing anything goes to auditing, unfortunately its one of those jobs. I haven't interacted with any auditor that actually understood all they were auditing, some are better than others but the average is worse than almost any other job description I have dealt with.

You should check out the banking industry sometime if you'd like to interact with a competent auditor.

Compliance gets taken quite seriously in an industry where one of your principal regulatory bodies has the power to unilaterally absorb your business and defenestrate your entire leadership team in the middle of the night.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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I'm getting the impression that a lot of people in this thread think this is because they violated an open-source license and saying things to the effect of, "they're just the ones who got caught". I also thought that was the scandal initially. (And when it comes to license violations, yes, there's absolutely more where that came from.) But that's just the cherry on top. I don't think they're being thrown out because…

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I've seen a bunch of people go on random crusades. Investigation is fun and righteous indignation is intoxicating. For certain personality types it's easy to get completely absorbed by a mystery/crime and not even realize how much time you're spending digging into it until the sun rises. Others may be intensely motivated by perceived injustice, dishonesty, or graft. Or they may feel personally cheated.

I don't know who this person is or whether they are legit but it doesn't surprise me that someone would do this.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Interesting! I worked for one YC startup that committed blatant fraud, with the founders vanishing when investors started chasing them to bring them to responsibility. And they haven't been removed. Just marked as "inactive".

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Working around arguably dumb regulations and making your customers happy in the process is not the same as defrauding your customers.

While I agree with you, I also find myself wondering who draws the line. Given the current political atmosphere and its increasingly fluid relationship with "truth," I have to consider that the line for others may not be where it is for me — especially given the nuance buried in the details of many B2B deals. Their value prop had to be strong enough to get past YC, past the other founders in the batch, past due dilig…

The vast majority of crimes are still being prosecuted as such. You have to reach a certain size/notoriety and money to buy a POTUS pardon; I doubt that matters for a relatively unknown outfit like Delve.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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I'm getting the impression that a lot of people in this thread think this is because they violated an open-source license and saying things to the effect of, "they're just the ones who got caught". I also thought that was the scandal initially. (And when it comes to license violations, yes, there's absolutely more where that came from.) But that's just the cherry on top. I don't think they're being thrown out because…

I came across a top tier compliance auditor doing the same thing recently. I tried to talk to them about it and rather than approaching this from a constructive point of view they wanted to know the name of the company that got certified so they could decertify them and essentially asked me to break my NDA. That wasn't going to happen, I wanted to have a far more structural conversation about this and how they probab…

Have you considered whistleblowing?

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Someone leaked an internal Bookface chat from Garry Tan (YC CEO) saying: We have asked Delve to leave YC. YC is a community, not just an accelerator. The founders in our community have to trust each other, and we have to trust them. When that trust breaks down, there's really only one thing to do. We're not going to get into the details publicly. We wish them well. https://x.com/___4o____/status/2040271468874076380 I…

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