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Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I despise the sham commercial LLMs have made out of intellectual property, I think Delve is one step worse than that. The technology behind LLMs is innovative, even if the data used to train them have ethically and legally dubious origins. Delve doesn’t even have the ability to claim anything they’ve done as original, unless you count fraud as a service.

Fraud as a service! The next big thing!!!

Presidential pardon insurance, like audit insurance but for breaking laws instead of filing taxes.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

#54
post #11

While I do think Delve and the leadership there should be held responsible, it's a bit weird to see YC and others take shots at them for breaking the law when so many of their prized unicorns achieved what they did by being willing to just ignore laws and deal with the consequences later.

> At its core, this article argues that Delve fakes compliance while creating the appearance of compliance without the underlying substance.

Anderson Consulting er I mean "Accenture": "Hey, that's our job!"

PWC: "Yeah! Fuck off!"

KPMG: "Damn straight!"

Ernst & Young: "What they said."

Deloitte & Touche: "Ditto."

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_scandals#List_of_th... )

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

#55

Bye-bye tweet from founder: https://x.com/kocalars/status/2040262537166618887 Notably YC hasn't wished them a farewell.

> striving to make the world a better place. Why do all start-ups say this? I don't think there are many companies publicly saying "We're going to go 'scorched earth' on everybody."

Oracle, right?

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

#57
post #50

This other profile is still up: https://www.forbes.com/profile/delve/ 30U30 never ceases to amaze.

I wonder if the kind of personality that gets you on 30U30 correlates with being willing to engage in massive fraud, and being able to get away with it for a minute.

Holmes, SBF, Shkreli, Charlie Javice, Ishan Wahi...

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

#58
post #19
post #11

While I do think Delve and the leadership there should be held responsible, it's a bit weird to see YC and others take shots at them for breaking the law when so many of their prized unicorns achieved what they did by being willing to just ignore laws and deal with the consequences later.

Ignoring a law is different from knowingly and intentionally breaking the law, especially when that law is actual intentional fraud. Also, there was no “endgame.” They weren’t trying to change the law; they were exclusively breaking it for profit.

> Ignoring a law is different from knowingly and intentionally breaking the law

This is like a line from a Naked Gun movie. The only way that this sentence could be true linguistically is if the party doesn’t break the law that they’re ignoring (e.g. I could ignore the rule against perpetuities while drunk driving through a zoo)

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

#59
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ignoring a law is different from knowingly and intentionally breaking the law Huh? In a legal sense I'm pretty sure they're the same thing.

I ignore the law every day when I jaywalk. Technically, you’re right that that is also breaking the law. I wasn’t being careful with my words. How and why matters, though.

> How and why matters, though.

How and why you break a law matters (to a judge / jury). Whether you frame it as "ignoring" vs "breaking" in your legal defense, not so much.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

#60
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ignoring a law is different from knowingly and intentionally breaking the law Huh? In a legal sense I'm pretty sure they're the same thing.

I ignore the law every day when I jaywalk. Technically, you’re right that that is also breaking the law. I wasn’t being careful with my words. How and why matters, though.

That’s not how words work. This sentence

> I ignore the law every day when I jaywalk.

Means the exact same thing as “I intentionally break jaywalking laws every day”. They are equivalent sentences.

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