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Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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That is very big. You would end up getting neck pain as you have to physically move your head to look at extremities of the screen. I use a 32" monitor and I find that I use only the center of the screen. I would downsize if not for vertical real estate.

I've had it two years, no neck pain. I don't have to move my head to look around.

How far away from it do you sit? I don't get neck pain, but I do have to move my head even on a 32", thinking of switching back to a 27" for that reason (plus better pixel density.)

Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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> Managing windows with OS idiosyncrasies becomes a task in itself. Tiling window managers are a good solution.

Tiling merely changes the idiosyncrasies, and I say this as someone who primarily uses them. (hyprland in my case) If you created a window right now, where will it go? Which window will it take its space from? Does it use your focused window? Your mouse position? If your WM supports mixed floating & tiling, how does it go when you flip a window between them? etc. That's all cognitive load when you aren't familiar and…

I haven't used hyprland. I can answer your questions for XMonad, assuming you're using a typical standard layout.

> If you created a window right now, where will it go?

The new window becomes the focused window. It's inserted into the master position. Existing windows shift down the (conceptual) stack.

> Does it use your focused window?

It uses the same screen space, yes.

> Which window will it take its space from?

All of the other visible windows. It recomputes the tiles so that all tiles except the master become smaller, to make room for the new one.

> Your mouse position?

By default, mouse position is ignored. XMonad is keyboard-centric by design. You can set a mouse-follow configuration variable if you want. I've never tried it.

> If your WM supports mixed floating & tiling, how does it go when you flip a window between them?

It recomputes the tiles in much the same way as above. It's as though you deleted the window from the tiling and it becomes floating. And vice versa. It's a very consistent model.

I find it very natural and predictable. As far as "cognitive load" goes, that seems like an exaggeration, but again I haven't used hyprland.

If by "hand control" you mean using the mouse, that's definitely not needed for window management. In fact by default, XMonad doesn't even support resizing tiles using the mouse, and I've never tried to enable that. I do commonly use the mouse for switching focus, usually because I'm navigating to some location in another window anyway, in which case focus moves automatically.

Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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I learned this lesson a couple decades ago. Managing windows with OS idiosyncrasies becomes a task in itself. However, I've also learned recently it depends what you're doing. Software development, I just want one single maximized window on a single laptop monitor. If I have a near-retina DPI monitor with 120hz+ (I can't deal with low DPI fuzziness and low refresh all day) I'll usually have a 3-4 window layout on a s…

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Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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post #40

Went from ultrawide back to my 27 inch monitor and definitely feel more focused. Having everything open "just in case" was killing my output. Nothing alt+tab can't fix.

I think a single 27” 4K is a sweet spot. I currently have a 32” 4K and I’m considering switching back.

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Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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I was wondering about this for a while now. My main home office has 5 monitors, and i still have to swipe between desktops regularly. I used to have 6, but two ultrawides stacked one above the other was a bit painful and I developed a back pain after a while. My on the road setup typically involves a folding portable monitor (asus zenscreen duo, or something to that effect - that is 2x 1080p). Easily enough, and I do…

I find real loss on a single screen in many cases; so much so that I'll get up and move downstairs to get the extra screens.

It really depends on what kind of work I'm doing - and if I'm on the plane, I'm going to likely do work that does well single-screen; replying to emails, dicking around on HN, etc.

But in maxscreen mode (or at least two screens) then I'm "doing" something on the main screen while looking at reference material, output, chat, other things on the second.

Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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Like everything else in life, it depends : * I feel the key message here is "single vs multiple windows", not small vs big monitor. I love my 32" curved monitor. I too switched from having three monitors to having just one big monitor and staying with one maximizing window majority of time. It's also role dependant. I spent few years as ops manager and multiple windows and situational awareness / task parallelization…

one thing I've noticed with the "single ultra wide monitor" vs multiple smaller ones is that if I maximize something on the ultra wide the "important" part is often off to the left, not centered.

I actually redesigned my desk a bit so my ultra wide's left side is directly in front of me to compensate for this, which is a bit weird, but ... it's working so far.

Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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100% in agreement. Trying to get rid of my 32" 4K. Too much head panning and scanning. I want to comfortably see the entire screen without effort at less than 12 inches away. Creatives likely get some benefit with large displays, but for people who read, code, do productive stuff, it's too much screen, too much pixels.

27" @ WQHD res seems just about right. 4K if you absolutely must.

Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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> One day I was doing work on my laptop on a couch because hitting 30 apparently means that sleeping slightly incorrectly results in debilitating back pain.

A factor in my debilitating back pain for me (was 31 and fit; now 37; getting better) was coping with back pain by moving to unergonomic positions like the couch/bed, which led to different and thus compounding compensations, and thus more complex recovery.

Now if my back is painful in a position, I take it as a signal to move my body, not find another static position that doesn't cause pain.

That can sometimes be difficult to do, with job/family requirements though.

Sorry to derail the post, but I hope this helps someone avoid my issue.

Re: Improving my focus by giving up my big monitor

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> too easy to put YouTube running on the left side, and whatever else on the right.

After reading the first sentences, I knew this was going to come up. I have an ultrawide screen but never watch videos next to my work. It just doesn’t work. When I’m working, I want to be productive. Somehow it’s also really bad for the brain to put things side by side as anyone I know who does this has poor focus

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