You never have been able to. It's against ToS.
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Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
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#332Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#333There seem to be a ton of people who don't understand how subscription services work. Every single one of them oversells their capacity. The power users that use the services a lot are subsidized by those who don't use it as much, which tends to be the vast majority of the user base. OpenClaw is an autonomous power user. The growing adoption of this walking attack surface was either going to A) cause the cost of Clau…
The entire point of AI is for it to do shit autonomously? The whole point is that the users can have it doing shit for them instead of them having to babysit the computer. The fact that users still have to sit there and argue with it erodes their value proposition. The proposition you can pay fewer salaries.
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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#334I guess they're only sending this to people who use tools like OpenClaw. I don't, and haven't gotten an email. And I guess also won't get the free extra usage credit offer. Ah well.
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#335Claude usage limits are insane. I love their models but had to cancel my personal plan because I would burn through my weekly limits in 2 days. I use them for work but I spend like $30-50 __per day__. Not something I'd pay for myself.
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#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
They sell metered usage while having the implied expectation that most wont use it fully. Power users and users of stuff like OpenClaw don't match that idea. So they further restricted the metered caps, which were only offered to NOT be reached by that many. Simple as that.
>Power users and users of stuff like OpenClaw don't match that idea. Then they should figure out how to structure an offering that accommodates this type of usage not just blanket ban it
They did figure out how to structure an offering that accommodates that type of usage: pay for your tokens.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Power users and users of stuff like OpenClaw don't match that idea. Then they should figure out how to structure an offering that accommodates this type of usage not just blanket ban it
Why "should" they? There's no reason they would especially when their competitor now owns OpenClaw.
Because a big part of Anthropic's story is that they build based on how people actually use AI. Power users aren't just annoying edge cases, they're signal. Throttling them and calling it done is inconsistent with that.
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#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a had sell to a finance team.
It seems like you have an impossible ask? Why not 4 subscriptions to last you 5 hours?
You are not allowed to use multiple accounts to bypass the rate limit. You can only use different accounts for different uses like a work account and then a personal account. You can't rotate through 5 for personal use.
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You aren't paying to be using that limit all of the time. You are paying to be using that limit some of the time. There are 5 hour windows when you are sleeping and can't use it. There are weekend limits. Theoretically you can max out every 5 hour window, but they lose money on that. It's structured so users can have bursts of unlimited usage, and spend ~15% of the theoretical max cap, and that's still cheaper than a…
you can write automated MCP tools that run within claude code, and could theoretically generate as high a load as any other automated/3rd party agent. You can also do loops that burn tokens incredibly fast. This is allowed with no caveats (I use MCP's basically to test what I'd like to try with the API...) So this explanation just seems a lil hollow.
While you can write an automated tool to consume all their tokens, I strongly suspect most users, like myself, are not doing that. So even if Anthropic loses money on a power user, they profit overall and keep public sentiment high by not alienating users with restrictions. It's an optimization problem of making a profit off the average used while staying low enough to attract customers, even if that means some users cost more than they pay.
More users spinning up OpenClaw means that balance starts to shift towards more users maxing their tokens, thus the average increases, so I think their explanation makes sense still.
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#340Haha, I almost expected this. Say goodbye to my 600$/ month Anthropic.
Three Claude Max subs maxed out? I think that's exactly what they do want to say goodbye to. This might be the most unregretted "unregretted attrition" they have.
The worst thing is that someone with three Max accounts is definitely not going to leave due to this. They already clearly have a dependence on Claude.