How about the tweets before the election talking about riots if Obama wasn't elected?
How about that is only tangentially related?
Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election
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Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about the people who voted for Romney because he is white? Those people are also racists, and frequently called racists. The double standard is issue here. White guy votes for a white guy because he's white means he's a racists. Black guy votes for a black guy because he's black means he's supporting change. Worse yet, is that since I think Obama has done a horrible job and wouldn't vote for him, his supporters…
Those two things are not equivalent. That's not a symmetrical situation. But I like your straw man. Also, I named a situation when voting for Obama because he is black is ok and not racist.
Also, I named a situation when voting for Obama because he is black is ok and not racist.
Making a decision based on race is racist. To think otherwise is to continue to perpetuate racism and remain part of the problem.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course it's correlated with the red states; when the person they didn't want to see win won, they said anything they could to degrade him. Certainly the n word is the easiest and most offensive word to throw out, but that doesn't necessarily imply racism. Though I'm not defending their use of that extremely offensive word, it's highly disingenuous to equate it to racism.
Can of worms = opened. The "n word" does imply racism. I'm not going to write a book about it, but I'll just put that out there for you to think about.
To paraphrase XKCD, I would say that the word doesn't imply racism, but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively, etc.
Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about the people that voted for Obama—just because he's black? Isn't that racist too? What about the people who voted for Obama out of fear of being labeled racist? Isn't that blackmail? I've no idea how widespread those cases are, but I do wonder.
What about the people who voted for Romney because he is white? What kind of question is that even? Suddenly when it's a black guy THAT'S the issue. How brain dead. Wanting your kid to have positive black role models is not racist, no. That's a not very sophisticated but very valid and certainly not racist reason for voting for Obama that's entirely based on race.
Wanting your kid to have positive black role models is not racist, no.
Voting for or against someone because of the color of his skin is racist by definition. You don't get to choose which color.
I imagine that you'd want to choose some particular definition of racism that meets your semantic needs, but that's not how this whole "logical use of language" thing works.
Not teaching your kid that character and political philosophy matter more than the color of a candidate's skin is bad parenting.
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#85Well, on the flip side: I heard multiple "The problem with Republicans is old white guys" comments on NPR and CNN. From respected "pundits" no less. Talk about your sexist, racist , ageist comments! Substituting the words "Democratic" and "young" and "of color" sounds pretty silly. I'm all for free speech, though. There will always be a noise component in political discourse and we Americans have pretty good filters.
Were the pundits referring to this interview? “The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-republican-convent... I think my favourite comment I heard someone say to describe the Republicans demographics problem is when watching Romney's camp during election…
Graham isn't a conservative. He consistently splits from other Republicans. He's criticizing his own party as a party of "angry white guys" when he says this. Surely you don't think Graham considers himself on the same side as "angry white guys"! The article linked does not quote him as an example of racism, but rather as someone inside the Republican Party who is criticizing their own demographic.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bill Clinton got "surprisingly low" percentages in the lower eighties. Black people vote for Democrats because Republicans fucked them in the past. But no, white people vote for Romney because of the issues, black people vote for Obama because they are racist, Of course!
95% of whites don't vote for Romney. Not even close.
In 2000 Gore won 42% of the white vote and 90% of the black vote. In 2012, Obama won 39% of the white vote and 93% of the black vote.
So at most, Obama got an extra 3% of the black vote on account of his race, and lost at most 3% of the white vote. So on the face of it, a wash. Of course, the white electorate is over five times larger than the black electorate, so that's really -2.2%, +0.4%.
Even if Obama had performed at Bill Clinton's historically low 83% of the black vote, his popular vote total would have been only 1.3% lower. This may have been enough to make him lose the popular vote, but it would not have been enough to make him lose the electoral college (Mitt Romney would have needed to win the popular vote by 3% to have won the electoral college).
Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a huge problem with people submitting bug reports because it needlessly creates the perception that the software is buggy. Pointing out racism has nothing to do with "stirring racial divides". This appears to be a reasonably sophisticated analysis, the methodology was clearly explained. It certainly, at least, appears they didn't just make up a bunch of numbers. If you disagree, then find data and make your ca…
He did make his case - 395 racist tweets out of 120 million voters is practically background noise. You should expect all manner of extreme behavior on a sample size that large.
Again, that 395 number is not the total number of tweets, it's the number of tweets that included geolocation data. That 395 was likely a subset of the total number of racist tweets.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a reason those are not acceptable sources...
Bah, I read news from as many sources as I can. I find that when people turn up their noses at FoxNews, the Drudge Report, Huffpo, or Salon just because of the source - it's usually because they're insecure about their fragile belief system... scared that they might read something that's true which will force them to re-think their positions.
Agreed, but HN has set a pretty high standard for sourcing, much to its credit. I wouldn't feel bad about posting ideological material from the WSJ, National Review, or NYT, but I would never post Drudge, HuffPo, Breitbart, Slate, etc. to HN, even though I check them out regularly just to get the temperature of the national discourse, and get a heads up on those occasional outlier stories that they're ahead of the curve on.
Besides, the foaming at the mouth, politics as bloodsport commentary can be a kind of entertaining guilty pleasure, kind of like outsider art: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_art
Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those two things are not equivalent. That's not a symmetrical situation. But I like your straw man. Also, I named a situation when voting for Obama because he is black is ok and not racist.
Also, I named a situation when voting for Obama because he is black is ok and not racist. Making a decision based on race is racist. To think otherwise is to continue to perpetuate racism and remain part of the problem.
I said it yesterday and I will say it again today: If you insist on playing semantic games and defining racism so weirdly I will happily admit to loving being racist in that way.
You mistake is to assume symmetry where there is none.
Re: Mapping Racist Tweets in Response to President Obama's Re-election
#90The problem I have with this is that it is needlessly stirring racial divides. 395 tweets out of ~120 million voters? Come on, do something positive for our country like mapping out the tweets of people still needing help from Sandy.
I have the exact same problem, I'm sure that there are many racists in our country, but this graphic is pretty garbage. 1) There are about 35 to 40 million Americans on Twitter, (15% of the 78.1% of online Americans). 2) Does the percentage of twitter users per state factor into this, it seems not. 3) " A score of 1.0 indicates that a state has relatively the same number of hate speech tweets as its total number of t…
Why do you respond when you can't even be bothered to read TFA? The criteria used to find the tweets was very clearly described in footnote 1.
Regarding your #4: just shut up.