Why not use datacenter of geniuses to increase capacity? Grug confused.
Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do realize that I called out in my post they are absolutely not a monopoly by the law, right? I know all-too-well what the definition is. We have a similar situation in mobile where Apple may not be considered a monopoly, but people have walked around for a decade with a supercomputer in their pocket that is wildly underused. Things have gotten faster; things are different than they were decades ago when a lot of…
> “we are self-preferencing, and the FTC should really take a look at us, even if we're technically not a monopoly right now” That is not calling out that they are “absolutely not a monopoly by the law” in any way, shape, or form. You’re framing it as though they aren’t by a technicality, when they aren’t anywhere near discussion by even the most extreme of legal theories. You won’t find Lina Khan or Margarethe Vesta…
Let me back up what you're saying. They absolutely are not a monopoly today by any definition, by any stretch, in any conceivable way.
I'm looking forward. Things are moving very quickly. As I said above, I'm afraid of us diverging into another Apple situation in the future. If I suggest that they should be looked at and thought about, it's not for today, it's for tomorrow. If divergence continues. Because as with everything in AI, it might hit us a lot faster than people expect. Hell, given their approach to morality, I suspect that Anthropic folks have already thought deeply about these sorts of concerns. That's why it's actually a lot more in character for them to be doing this not due to self-preferencing, but due to unaffordability, which - if you look at my first post - is what I said seems to be happening.
Suffice to say that I have a graveyard of things that I think phones could have been, where unfortunately we've ended up with these - as you say - addicting consumerist messes.
Gonna stop here so I don't flood the thread. We're getting very off topic.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#143"these tools put an outsized strain on our systems" AKA when you fully use the capacity you paid for, that's too much!
You don't pay for capacity, you pay for an interface. Paying for capacity is what API keys are for.
Similarly, on a home internet connection you might pay for a given size of pipe, but most residential ISPs don't allow running publicly accessible servers on your connection because you'll typically use way more of the bandwidth.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#144Ok. Someone explain to me why they would f themselves this hard with software engineers when they are absolutely winning. This just seems like a bad move. Is it infrastructure? Are they unable to control costs? Everyone else is spending like money is water to try to get adoption. Claude has it and is dialing back utility so that its most passionate users will probably leave. I don’t understand this move.
They have plenty of high paying users that will soak up what the claws are consuming in capacity. They are thinking about those customers and delivering them a better experience
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#145The solution as usual is open source. For example... We recently moved a very expensive sonnet 4.6 agent to step-3.5-flash and it works surprising well. Obviously step-3.5-flash is nowhere near the raw performance of sonnet but step works perfectly fine for this case. Another personal observation is that we are most likely going to see a lot of micro coding agent architectures everywhere. We have several such cases.…
Google releasing Gemma 4 yesterday was prescient. Toying around with Zed + Gemma 4 on my laptop is 95% as good as using a cloud provider.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Oh, give me a break. I know the law around this incredibly well. Then don’t make BS up like implying Anthropic is a monopolist for the crime of competence. > tell me you don't understand how a small quantitative gap can result in a step change in capability The law does not give a darn about this. Being a good competitive option does not make you a league of your own. If I invent a new flavor of shake, the Emerald…
You do realize that I called out in my post they are absolutely not a monopoly by the law, right? I know all-too-well what the definition is. We have a similar situation in mobile where Apple may not be considered a monopoly, but people have walked around for a decade with a supercomputer in their pocket that is wildly underused. Things have gotten faster; things are different than they were decades ago when a lot of…
You’re welcome to start OpenSpigot yourself, and see how investors feel about you giving away your technical / IP / market advantage on launch day.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#147Personally I appreciate the clarity and technical enforcement vs banning accounts.
I switched OpenClaw to MiniMax 2.7. This combined with Claude over telegram does enough for me.
OpenClaw used to burn through all my Claude usage anyway.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
This actually seems rather generous of them? Not only are they offering credits equal the cost you paid, but they're offering refunds if you disagree. Anthropic not allowing Claiude Code subscriptions to be used with other projects isn't "pulling the rug out"; you paid for an API subscription to use Claude Code, and now you're using it for a different purpose and a different product. If Tesla offered $10/month chargi…
Nope, I paid for an Anthropic subscription that I could use with the Agents SDK. Then they decided I shouldn't be able to use that, just because. > If Tesla offered $10/month charging for your Tesla No, "if Tesla offered $10/month for 100 kWh of charging", and yes, I expect to use those 100 kWh with any vehicle I want, because there's a limit on the resource I'm paying for. I can understand caps on unlimited, I can't…
A more apt comparison is Telsa offering $10/m for 100kWh for your car, or pay-as-you-go for any cars, but then you setting up shop at a charger, putting up a sign saying anyone can charge on your subscription until you reach that limit.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#149So is Codex the only SOTA that welcomes third-party harness?
Any model besides Claude. AFAIK anthropics the only corp to say no to other harnesses.
Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw
#150I got fed up with Claude code limits and have been using a combination of qwen3-coder, gemma4, and qwen3-vl locally. Gets me 90% of the way there and CC is still around for now if I need it. Btw even at insane markups $200/mo means GPUs break even pretty fast.
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