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Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by password4321 »

GitHub Copilot supports Anthropic models with any client but they have a monthly usage cap after which it is pay-per-prompt.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46936105 Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition

> "Even without hacks, Copilot is still a cheap way to use Claude models"

20260116 https://github.blog/changelog/2026-01-16-github-copilot-now-...

https://github.com/features/copilot/plans $40/month for 1500 requests; $0.04/request after that

https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/concepts/billing/copilot-... Opus uses 3x requests

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by verdverm »

stavros wrote: post #46
charcircuit wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are making the false assumption that all token consumption costs the same when it doesn't. Yes in the limit the price to serve the model and generate a response is O(tokens), but when tokens is smaller it can be cheaper to generate a new token than when tokens is bigger. If other harnesses prompt with more tokens than Claude Code it can be more expensive to serve.

They have limits. I don't care how expensive it is to serve, I'm paying them for a given amount of tokens (a limit which THEY SET) and they want to also dictate where I spend those tokens.

Those are subsidized tokens because you are also using their product.

They have a per-token payment option where you can use any tool you like

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by happyopossum »

stavros wrote: post #35
_pdp_ wrote: post #33

The solution as usual is open source. For example... We recently moved a very expensive sonnet 4.6 agent to step-3.5-flash and it works surprising well. Obviously step-3.5-flash is nowhere near the raw performance of sonnet but step works perfectly fine for this case. Another personal observation is that we are most likely going to see a lot of micro coding agent architectures everywhere. We have several such cases.…

> The solution as usual is open source. > Obviously step-3.5-flash is nowhere near the raw performance of sonnet I feel like these two statements conflict with each other.

Those two statements completely check out about a lot of open source projects/products tho... macOS upsetting you today? The solution is linux!

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by post-it »

stavros wrote: post #42

Looks like I'm going to be switching to OpenAI. I know the whole "well those are the terms" Stockholm syndrome argument, but no, those weren't the terms when I signed up. If one of the parties decided to unilaterally change terms in any other everyday situation, nobody would think it was acceptable, but we've become so resigned to corporations having enough money to make the law suit them that we think it's moral beh…

I mean that's the thing, you're paying per month. And they're changing things going forward and offering to refund the current month.

It's like if I buy a hot dog every month and they tell me they're raising the price next month, or discontinuing honey mustard. Inconvenient but they're not doing anything wrong.

Especially since, given my back of the napkin math, they're giving us a pretty decent discount on the subscription plans.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by freedomben »

saltyoldman wrote: post #37

Is anyone even getting anything out of a $20/mo sub for Anthropic? I'm doing a side-by-side with GPT-5.4 for $20/mo and Sonnet for $20/mo and I can tell you that all my 5 hour tokens are eaten in 30 minutes with Claude. I still haven't used my tokens for OpenAI. Code quality seems fine on both. Building an app in Go

Yeah, the $20 Claude plan is almost worthless. Unless you're just using it to write scripts and not working in a real world application code base, it just runs out way too fast to get much done.

I think using it to write small documentation or small scripts would be a good use case for it, but serious development work you Hit the usage limits way too fast.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by charcircuit »

stavros wrote: post #46
charcircuit wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are making the false assumption that all token consumption costs the same when it doesn't. Yes in the limit the price to serve the model and generate a response is O(tokens), but when tokens is smaller it can be cheaper to generate a new token than when tokens is bigger. If other harnesses prompt with more tokens than Claude Code it can be more expensive to serve.

They have limits. I don't care how expensive it is to serve, I'm paying them for a given amount of tokens (a limit which THEY SET) and they want to also dictate where I spend those tokens.

>I'm paying them for a given amount of tokens

The plans do not say how many tokens you get. People are paying for access. Higher plans get more usage. The marketing and support material of the plans only use the word "usage" and never "tokens."

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by nrmitchi »

stavros wrote: post #42

Looks like I'm going to be switching to OpenAI. I know the whole "well those are the terms" Stockholm syndrome argument, but no, those weren't the terms when I signed up. If one of the parties decided to unilaterally change terms in any other everyday situation, nobody would think it was acceptable, but we've become so resigned to corporations having enough money to make the law suit them that we think it's moral beh…

This actually seems rather generous of them? Not only are they offering credits equal the cost you paid, but they're offering refunds if you disagree.

Anthropic not allowing Claiude Code subscriptions to be used with other projects isn't "pulling the rug out"; you paid for an API subscription to use Claude Code, and now you're using it for a different purpose and a different product.

If Tesla offered $10/month charging for your Tesla, and then a bunch of people turned around and use their Tesla Charge subscription to charge all different electric vehicles, and battery packs, and also hooked up a crypto mining rig to it, would you be surprised if they said "Nope, we're cutting this off. You can only use your Tesla Charge subscription for your Tesla vehicle"?

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic no longer allowing Claude Code subscriptions to use OpenClaw

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Post by arewethereyeta »

Marketing geniuses. They had 2 options here:

1. Make a better product/alternative to Openclaw and start eating their userbase. They hold the advantage because the ones "using their servers too much" are already their clients so they could reach out and keep trying to convert. Openclaw literally brought them customers at the door.

2. Do everyone royally and get them off their platform - with a strong feeling of dislike or hatred towards Anthropic.

Let's see how 2 goes for them. This is not the space to be treating your clients this way.

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