Live data from Hacker News

Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

nationaltoday.com

31–40 of 350 posts

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#31
post #6

I would expect further H1B crackdowns coming. The $100k fee was just the start.

I would absolutely not expect this, especially as long as Oracle and all the other technofeudalists are properly paying their taxes to the count and king.

By taxes, do you mean buying Trump's crypto?

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#32
post #9

They have many departments, and are probably reducing some of them while increasing the workforce in others. The idea that they hire 'those damn foreigners' to push down wages is probably true to some degree, but not the whole story. I also don't believe the majority of these H1B are directly hired in other countries for which there is now a $100k fee, but rather people who studied in the US under F1 visa who are exe…

What magical skills do the "damn foreigners" have that none of those 30,000 laid off employees don't have? What was the intent of the H1B? To find skills that don't exist in this country. What is H1B actually used for? Labor arbitrage, nepotism, kickbacks. There's really no excuse for defending it anymore.

H-1B exists to make unfathomably rich corporations and people even more unfathomably rich. That's the only reason. That's why we don't have single payer. How can corporations function if employees don't equate job loss with total economic and social ruin?

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#33

I don't understand why American workers would support this program at this scale. Furthermore, I believe universities and other similar researchy/affiliated non-profits are exempt from the hiring caps. I just cannot imagine executives at tech companies/body shops having any positive ethical motivations. More like "they'll do what we say without complaining or they'll go home". There's no way it's not just a hugely ab…

workers dont. but dont speak against it either because they are scared of losing heir jobs from accusations of racism.

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#35

Where did my standard of living go? Couldnt possibly have to do with imported labor working around the clock under the threat of being kicked out of the country

Cheap labour producing goods for the native population at low costs should increase your standard of living, no? It makes the products you buy cheaper.

By your logic, if you were the only person in the country, you'd live like a king.

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#36

Where did my standard of living go? Couldnt possibly have to do with imported labor working around the clock under the threat of being kicked out of the country

For tech jobs specifically? Compensation has been increasing since the turn of the millennium, what standard of living do you mean? If you mean housing, that's due mainly to NIMBYism from native labor buying and owning houses, especially before the tech boom, not imported labor.

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#37
post #8

Wherever their major offices are look for newspapers in the small towns nearby advertising for "Software developers for Oracle" all written in the tiniest print, right next to classified that sell used bikes, car parts and other stuff. - "Well, Uncle Sam, we looked so hard in US and nobody answered our job posts, we have to go to ... $othercountry to hire, there is no other way"

Just to cut through the headline here. The largest chunk of Oracle layoffs were in India [1]. In comparison, they've barely fired any American workers.

Contrary to popular opinion, IT workers aren't interchangeable and there exist a large swath of jobs that very few people qualify for (HN should know this) because of the specialization required.

America is at near full employment [2]. Replacing American workers with lower paid foreign workers is already illegal and frequently enforced[3].

This is such a deep distraction but a virulent virus of a narrative, surgically designed to needle our reptilian minds.

[1]: https://www.goodreturns.in/news/tech-layoffs-2025-oracle-cut...

[2]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/269959/employment-in-the...

[3]: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20180501-2, https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20180501-2

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#38

If you want to hire an H1B and claim there is no American to do that job, what about the 30k employees you just laid off? None of them can do the software engineering, sales, HR, etc. that a company like Oracle works on 99% of the time? It's quite schizophrenic for basic engineering companies like Oracle, Cisco, eBay, Paypal, etc. to claim there are no Americans to do the software engineering they require after they…

lots ppl are confused in this comment section. h1b doesnt not require looking for a local first.

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#39

I don't understand why American workers would support this program at this scale. Furthermore, I believe universities and other similar researchy/affiliated non-profits are exempt from the hiring caps. I just cannot imagine executives at tech companies/body shops having any positive ethical motivations. More like "they'll do what we say without complaining or they'll go home". There's no way it's not just a hugely ab…

Because our government is not run for the workers but the owners. Full stop.

Re: Oracle files H-1B visa petitions amid mass layoffs

#40

Meanwhile this March we saw 15k manufacturing jobs, 26k construction jobs, and 91k healthcare and education jobs added [0]. Those are the voters that matter (unionized, geographically spread out, didn't price everyone else out via remote work) - not SWEs. [0] - https://www.ft.com/content/82c1795b-704a-4da3-82ec-2f9cd52de...

construction, hospital nurses and daycare workers are the avialble jobs? so depressing and scary
Post reply on HN