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High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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I would like a credible dismissive comment to be at the top of this thread now please, because otherwise this is very bad news.

Best medical journal (Lancet), proper sample-size (579), from first glance it looks OK! From their discussion there are some caveats: - mostly white people checked (so if you're Asian, this might not happen) - MRI has a known bias towards participation of healthy people, as unhealthy people don't like to hear the "news" about their condition - the study is "cross-sectional", i.e., the MRI is just from one point in ti…

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Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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post #23

I would like a credible dismissive comment to be at the top of this thread now please, because otherwise this is very bad news.

Best medical journal (Lancet), proper sample-size (579), from first glance it looks OK! From their discussion there are some caveats: - mostly white people checked (so if you're Asian, this might not happen) - MRI has a known bias towards participation of healthy people, as unhealthy people don't like to hear the "news" about their condition - the study is "cross-sectional", i.e., the MRI is just from one point in ti…

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Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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post #23

I would like a credible dismissive comment to be at the top of this thread now please, because otherwise this is very bad news.

Best medical journal (Lancet), proper sample-size (579), from first glance it looks OK! From their discussion there are some caveats: - mostly white people checked (so if you're Asian, this might not happen) - MRI has a known bias towards participation of healthy people, as unhealthy people don't like to hear the "news" about their condition - the study is "cross-sectional", i.e., the MRI is just from one point in ti…

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Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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post #23

I would like a credible dismissive comment to be at the top of this thread now please, because otherwise this is very bad news.

Best medical journal (Lancet), proper sample-size (579), from first glance it looks OK! From their discussion there are some caveats: - mostly white people checked (so if you're Asian, this might not happen) - MRI has a known bias towards participation of healthy people, as unhealthy people don't like to hear the "news" about their condition - the study is "cross-sectional", i.e., the MRI is just from one point in ti…

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Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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It was Kyolic 100. I was taking one a day but the bottle says 2.

Hmm, I was reading that the aging process makes it lose the active ingredient? But it still seemed to work really well for you?

It loses some actives and gains as well as intensifies others. The studies are not consistent for its ability for dropping BP. For whatever reason, I see a drop when using it and a rise to normal when not (did this twice before isolating it as the cause, for me).

If I was looking for supplements for BP, based on research, I would go with pomegranate or potassium.

Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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What do you think of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptical_trainer to stay fit and avoid this thing of problems? I don't like losing time going to the gym and this machine seems to train a large number of muscle groups and could be a good gym substitute to maintain health.

If only one machine were to be picked, I would go rower.

Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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There is no quality control at regular, commercial gyms either. I used to work out at a popular commercial gym and would see trainers doing the most ridiculous things with their clients: swimmers press on a bosu ball for a average 45 year old non-athlete, all kinds of pointless machine circuits. Coming from a competitive sports background and year of training, my injury rate has actually gone down after joining cross…

> I used to work out at a popular commercial gym and would see trainers doing the most ridiculous things with their clients: swimmers press on a bosu ball for a average 45 year old non-athlete, all kinds of pointless machine circuits. Which brings us neatly to my second point, which was injuries/Kwh. Most commercial gyms don't perform exercise selection; it's done by trainers who generally focus on stuff that seems d…

Well we could rationalise this by linking to the MRI studies that show such structural damages not be correlated with pain. And conclude with a snarky remark that CF Style training at least produces some visible changes initially. Therefore it must clearly be superior to everything else. Criticising CF makes you the enemy.

Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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>I took blood pressure medication for awhile and, with my doctor's help, eventually got off of it. Can you share how exactly you got off the blood pressure medication? I know it is possible with appropriate diet and lifestyle changes - but would love to hear how you did it. Specifically, how high was your blood pressure and what changes made the most difference. I have been on daily medication for over 5 years now, a…

Hey there... First off, sorry to hear that you've been on daily medication for five years. I'm not a doctor, but I'll tell you everything I know. As well, if you have any questions you don't want to share here, or if you just need some support, my email address is on my profile page. The worst reading I ever had was 240/120, but I lived in the 200+/100+ zone for a long time. Over my entire battle, my average would ha…

Hi Greg, thanks for sharing your story. It's great to hear that you're staying very healthy now.

To all other friends here, I'm sure most of you have read the recent article by Jessica Livingston, What Goes Wrong. In the article, she said, "We tell people that during YC there are really only three things you should focus on: building things, talking to users, and exercising." Over the past year, I've been doing exactly the three things, and I'm feeling healthy in spite of the long hours, and crazy schedule.

Take care of yourself, everyone. So often we hear people say that doing a startup is a marathon, not a sprint. We really need it take it to heart.

Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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There is no quality control at regular, commercial gyms either. I used to work out at a popular commercial gym and would see trainers doing the most ridiculous things with their clients: swimmers press on a bosu ball for a average 45 year old non-athlete, all kinds of pointless machine circuits. Coming from a competitive sports background and year of training, my injury rate has actually gone down after joining cross…

> I used to work out at a popular commercial gym and would see trainers doing the most ridiculous things with their clients: swimmers press on a bosu ball for a average 45 year old non-athlete, all kinds of pointless machine circuits. Which brings us neatly to my second point, which was injuries/Kwh. Most commercial gyms don't perform exercise selection; it's done by trainers who generally focus on stuff that seems d…

I'm not sure what kind of training background you come from, but many of the exercises you mentioned are core parts of training programs for competitive athletes in a number of sports.

High rep oly movements = dumb? In what situation? With what intended training effect?

Rep/weight schemes, in a periodized training program for an athlete are set to achieve a specific training goals. In one phase of the program that may be power endurance, for example. In a training program for competitive rowers high rep (30+) sets of power cleans at a low weight may be used to build power endurance.

Deadlifting 65% of 1RM for max reps is another very common exercise prescription for athletes building power endurance. If the exercise is stopped when form breaks down, I see nothing wrong here. 65% is a relatively light load. If you have a decent deadlift it's only about 300 lbs or so - a good athlete will have no trouble keep form for sets of 10+. The desired training effect of a high rep 65% effort is much different than a 85-100% max strength effort, or even a 65% low rep, speed focus.

High rep box jumps, for untrained individuals = a bad idea. If you've built up to it and have no achilles issues, this is not a concern.

Re: High blood pressure damages brain long before old age

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> I used to work out at a popular commercial gym and would see trainers doing the most ridiculous things with their clients: swimmers press on a bosu ball for a average 45 year old non-athlete, all kinds of pointless machine circuits. Which brings us neatly to my second point, which was injuries/Kwh. Most commercial gyms don't perform exercise selection; it's done by trainers who generally focus on stuff that seems d…

I'm not sure what kind of training background you come from, but many of the exercises you mentioned are core parts of training programs for competitive athletes in a number of sports. High rep oly movements = dumb? In what situation? With what intended training effect? Rep/weight schemes, in a periodized training program for an athlete are set to achieve a specific training goals. In one phase of the program that ma…

My background is as an Olympic-style weightlifter. I'm a licensed sports power coach under the Australian Weightlifting Federation.

> High rep oly movements = dumb? In what situation?

In all situations. This is never a good idea. Ever.

> With what intended training effect?

If it's to improve technique, do more sets. If it's to improve cardiovascular conditioning, do something else.

> a periodized training program

Oh, you mean the kind of "voodoo science" that Crossfit HQ specificially eschews and that every top level Crossfit Games competitor nevertheless follows?

> If the exercise is stopped when form breaks down, I see nothing wrong here.

I'll say it again: quality control and exercise selection.

> If you've built up to it and have no achilles issues, this is not a concern.

And yet I see middle-aged housewives doing AMRAPs on box jumps.

And it's not just repetitive strain injuries. Misjudge the jump (because, I dunno, you're really tired from high rep box jumping), land on toes, fall down, snap.

A lot of Crossfit is fine. The problems still remain that quality control is explicitly non-existent and that exercise selection is hit-and-miss with a genuine fondness for stupid ideas.

Basically, no good and safe Crossfit gym has any resemblance to Crossfit HQ's vision except to pay a licensing fee to use the trademark.

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