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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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It reminds me of a Age of Empires campaign I played at a LAN from a long while back, where the game went on for 20 hours and ended in a stalemate between an atomic age player and a very primitive age player. The atomic player had total control of the map, they were carpet bombing the entire thing with nuclear weapons. But they could only create them so fast while the primitive player was running around on horses, jus…

Ah, you mean Empire Earth. I loved that game, it had a great soundtrack.

Sounds like it indeed. The balance was... interesting, a single tank could not win against a dozen cavemen.

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> CENTCOM certainly is saying it's false… Any time this administration cries "fake news" is probably a tell. > Flying low over Iran at this point is planned… But with C-130s and helos, in an area that just shot down a F-15? That's risky. One of the videos shows the C-130 deploying flares.

You do have a point. F-18 narrowly missed a MANPAD recently too

The other way around.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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It reminds me of a Age of Empires campaign I played at a LAN from a long while back, where the game went on for 20 hours and ended in a stalemate between an atomic age player and a very primitive age player. The atomic player had total control of the map, they were carpet bombing the entire thing with nuclear weapons. But they could only create them so fast while the primitive player was running around on horses, jus…

Ah, you mean Empire Earth. I loved that game, it had a great soundtrack.

Right right Empire Earth! My memory is a little fuzzy it must have been 20 years ago.

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When the first-tier hostile leadership structure was eliminated in the first day of the war, and only after a month do the surviving enemies finally manage to damage a plane so severely that it can't return to a friendly base to land, is "quite useless" an adequate and accurate description of the technology used to prosecute that war?

It's useful in saving the pilot's life. With less advanced tecnologies, more pilots would have been shoot down. It's useful in targeted attacks, but they have proved themself uneffective (at least for now) as the new leadership is alined with the objective of the replaced one. It's close to useless when it comes to making the war cost-effective, which start being a relevant metric when the conflict start lasting too long. Of course the US has a bigger economy, so all the news about cheaper systems damaging or destroying quite expensive ones may still lead to a US victory, but a costly one for sure

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The US doesn't hold itself to the conventions, why should the country it started a war of aggression with?

If you throw away your principles because you are fighting an unprincipled enemy, you are no better than them.

It’s such a shock to the system to realise that “unprincipled enemy” referenced here is the US.

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Prisoner of war, not hostage. edit: I'm baffled by the amount of downvotes pointing out the objectively correct terminology can get. Its not a matter of opinion, military personnel captured by the enemy are pow no matter their treatment. A hostage, by definition, has been abducted.

It’s a “well, actually” and counter to the HN guidelines

Only for someone breaking the guideline of "Assume good faith".

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Why didn't Iran use its capability to take down enemy jets for an entire month?

Downvoters, care to explain? Seriously, it's been sitting on this for entire month and now, all of a sudden, rolled out antiaircraft defense? What's going on?

~15/16 MQ-9 Reapers have been shot down inside Iran. Not jets but still combat(strike and reconnaissance) aircraft.

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That is assuming Iran holds itself to the Geneva conventions, which ... seems like an extremely risky bet to make.

We are expecting Iran to honour an International Convention when US and Israel have squarely shat on every convention's face, so to speak.

The person you’re replying to is very explicitly not expecting them to honor the International Convention…
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