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Re: Cursor 3

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Post by owlstuffing »

bryancoxwell wrote: post #232
kvisner wrote: post #222

I find a lot of these IDEs are simply not as useful as a CLI. When I'm running a full agentic workflow, I don't really need to see the contents of the files at all time, I'd actually say I often don't need to at all, because I can't really understand 10k lines of code per hour.

If you can’t understand your code, who can?

It’s not their code, and it’s not for them to understand. The endgame here is that code as we know it today is the “ASM” of tomorrow. The programming language of tomorrow is natural human-spoken language used carefully and methodically to articulate what the agent should build. At least this is the world we appear to be heading toward… quickly.

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by muratsu »

athoscouto wrote: post #246

Cursor has been my main AI tool for over a year now. I've been trying to use Claude Code seriously for over a month, but every time I do it, I get the impression that it would take me less work to do with Cursor. I'm on the enterprise plan, so it can get pricey. This is why I used to stick mostly to auto mode. Now Composer 2 has taken over as my default model. It is not as intelligent as OpenAI's or Anthropic's flags…

I find it interesting that you are on the enterprise plan and are not default willing to pay more for more intelligence. Most people I know who are on the enterprise plan are wishing there existed a 2x intelligent model with 2x price.

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by lordmoma »

athoscouto wrote: post #246

Cursor has been my main AI tool for over a year now. I've been trying to use Claude Code seriously for over a month, but every time I do it, I get the impression that it would take me less work to do with Cursor. I'm on the enterprise plan, so it can get pricey. This is why I used to stick mostly to auto mode. Now Composer 2 has taken over as my default model. It is not as intelligent as OpenAI's or Anthropic's flags…

the only guy in my whose code has more problems than others is the one who who uses cursor, am I missing something?

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by thewhitetulip »

bastawhiz wrote: post #253

The only reason I use Cursor is because I want an ide with agents sometimes. I do not want a gui for just agents. I already have Claude for that if I wanted it. If they're planning to get rid of the ide and make Cursor purely vibe coding, they've lost me as a customer. Quite honestly, I've turned off almost all of the LLM features in Cursor. No more tab completion. No more agents for little changes. This week, the on…

It looks like they revamped the agents window. They will not remove vscode bits

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by dirtbag__dad »

athoscouto wrote: post #246

Cursor has been my main AI tool for over a year now. I've been trying to use Claude Code seriously for over a month, but every time I do it, I get the impression that it would take me less work to do with Cursor. I'm on the enterprise plan, so it can get pricey. This is why I used to stick mostly to auto mode. Now Composer 2 has taken over as my default model. It is not as intelligent as OpenAI's or Anthropic's flags…

I was a Cursor loyal until I was spending around $2k a week with premium models and my team had a discussion about whether we’d want to use more Cursor over hire another engineer. We unanimously agreed we’d rather hire another team member. I’m more productive than ever but I’m burning out.

Anyway, as a result, I switched to Claude Code Max and I am equally as prolific and paying 1/10th the price. I get my cake and to eat it, too. *Note there’s a Cursor Ultra, which at quick glance seems akin to Claude Code Max. Notice that both are individual plans, I believe I’m correct you benefit from choosing those token-wise over a team or enterprise plan?

Anyway, you’re right Claude Code is less ergonomic; generally slower. I was losing my mind over Opus in Cursor spinning up subagents. I don’t notice that happen nearly as frequently in Claude Code itself. I think it has to do with my relatively basic configuration. CC keeps getting better the more context I feed it though, which is stuff like homegrown linters to enforce architecture.

All to say, Cursor’s pricing model is problematic and left a bad taste in my mouth. Claude Code seems to need a bunch of hand holding at first to be magical. Pick your poison

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by dirtbag__dad »

nu11ptr wrote: post #91

I've been running Claude Code in my Cursor IDE for a while now via extension. I like the setup, and I direct Claude on one task at a time, while still having full access to my code (and nice completions via Cursor). I still spend time tweaking, etc. before committing. I have zero interest in these new "swarms of agents" they are trying to force on us from every direction. I can barely keep straight my code working on…

This. I have effectively used multiple agents to do large refactors. I have not used them for greenfield development. How are folks leveraging the agentic swarm, and how are you managing code quality and governance? Does anyone know of a site that highlights code, features, or products produced by this type of development?

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by TheRoque »

owlstuffing wrote: post #261
bryancoxwell wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can’t understand your code, who can?

It’s not their code, and it’s not for them to understand. The endgame here is that code as we know it today is the “ASM” of tomorrow. The programming language of tomorrow is natural human-spoken language used carefully and methodically to articulate what the agent should build. At least this is the world we appear to be heading toward… quickly.

But the endgame is not here and will likely never be, because unlike ASM, LLMs are not deterministic. So what happens when you need to find the bug in the 100,000k LoC you generated in a few weeks that you've never read, and the agent can't help you ? And it happens a lot. I am not doing this myself so I can't comment, but I've heard many vibe coders commenting that a lot of the commits they do is about fixing the slop they outputted a week prior.

Personally, I keep trying OpenCode + Opus 4.6 and I don't find it that good. I mean it does an OK job, but the code is definitely less quality and at the moment I care too much about my codebase to let it grow into slop.

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by sbysb »

dirtbag__dad wrote: post #265
athoscouto wrote: post #246

Cursor has been my main AI tool for over a year now. I've been trying to use Claude Code seriously for over a month, but every time I do it, I get the impression that it would take me less work to do with Cursor. I'm on the enterprise plan, so it can get pricey. This is why I used to stick mostly to auto mode. Now Composer 2 has taken over as my default model. It is not as intelligent as OpenAI's or Anthropic's flags…

I was a Cursor loyal until I was spending around $2k a week with premium models and my team had a discussion about whether we’d want to use more Cursor over hire another engineer. We unanimously agreed we’d rather hire another team member. I’m more productive than ever but I’m burning out. Anyway, as a result, I switched to Claude Code Max and I am equally as prolific and paying 1/10th the price. I get my cake and to…

> Anyway, you’re right Claude Code is less ergonomic; generally slower.

The secret in my experience is parallelization - Cursor might be faster or have better ergo for a single task, but Claude Code really shines when you have 6 tasks that are fairly independent.

If you treat CC as just another terminal tool and heavily use git worktrees, the overall productivity shoots through the window. I've been using a tool called Ouijit[1] for this (disclosure: the dev is an old colleague of mine), and I genuinely do not think I could go back to using Cursor or any other traditional IDE+agent. I barely even open the code in an editor anymore, primarily interacting through the term with Vim when I need to pull the wires out.

[1]: https://github.com/ouijit/ouijit

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by synergy20 »

dirtbag__dad wrote: post #265
athoscouto wrote: post #246

Cursor has been my main AI tool for over a year now. I've been trying to use Claude Code seriously for over a month, but every time I do it, I get the impression that it would take me less work to do with Cursor. I'm on the enterprise plan, so it can get pricey. This is why I used to stick mostly to auto mode. Now Composer 2 has taken over as my default model. It is not as intelligent as OpenAI's or Anthropic's flags…

I was a Cursor loyal until I was spending around $2k a week with premium models and my team had a discussion about whether we’d want to use more Cursor over hire another engineer. We unanimously agreed we’d rather hire another team member. I’m more productive than ever but I’m burning out. Anyway, as a result, I switched to Claude Code Max and I am equally as prolific and paying 1/10th the price. I get my cake and to…

long term claude code user here, never used cursor, however based on my limited experience, it seems codex can code better than claude code.

Re: Cursor 3

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Post by zargon »

whackernews wrote: post #223
fragmede wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> have zero interest in these new "swarms of agents" they are trying to force on us from every direction. Good for you! Personally waiting for one agent to do something while I shove my thumb up my butt just waiting around for it to generate code that I'll have to fix anyway is peak opposite of flow state, so I've eagerly adopted agents (how much free will I had in that decision is for philosophers to decide) so ther…

Why is this comment so pale I cat read it? What’s the contrast on this is this accessible to anyone? I’m guessing it was downvoted by the masses but at the same time I’d like the choice to be able to read it I’m not that into what the general public think about something. I’m getting into downmaxxing at this point. I love that you have to earn being negative on this site. Give it to me.

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