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Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by forinti »

stockresearcher wrote: post #117
forinti wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pine

Huh, back in the 2001/2002 timeframe I worked at an old company that gave everyone a Windows laptop but us engineers also had UNIX accounts on the server cluster, which we logged into for dev work. Our company was hit with one of the worms (don’t remember which). Thousands of emails constantly coming in and everyone scrambling to delete them - except people like me, who were on vacation. I returned to an inbox that i…

Couldn't you delete or filter /var/spool/mail?

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by SR2Z »

jubilanti wrote: post #42
xnyan wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not letting Microsoft off the hook here, but if you have an expensive metered connection and you're trusting clients (especially a modern personal computer of any operating system type)to play nicely with bandwidth, that's 100% on you.

That's a really sorry state of things, then. There's zero trust in software now, in the literal sense. How did it get that we live in a world where you can't trust a client to enforce its own documented behavior? How did it get to be the user's fault for not using OS and hardware level measures and not the software vendor's fault when the "Automatic updates" toggle is a no-op?

Fair enough, but the fact is that until fairly recently most software wouldn't even pretend to care about conserving bandwidth. I certainly would never expect a desktop OS to do this well, even if MS loves their revenue-generating "bugs."

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by workfromspace »

frizlab wrote: post #125
workfromspace wrote: post #123

OMG, this almost became real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zpCOYkdvTQ ("Fuck Microsoft" scene from the Netflix TV Series: Space Force)

Unless I’m mistaken Space Force is a netflix series.

Oh, apparently you are right! Thanks for the correction.

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by shimman »

mronetwo wrote: post #10
allears wrote: post #2

Why in the name of all that's holy would you use a Microsoft product on a mission like this? Just about the only thing you can trust about MS is that their software is buggy.

Because they have the power to insert themselves in places like these. It's a bigger problem. There are places in which companies with Microslop's level of quality have no business to be, but they're already there.

The fun thing about this, is it can change at anytime for any reason. All we need to do is get the right people in power, a good step toward this direction would be to actually support abolishing big tech (which many primary challengers have as a platform position).

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by workfromspace »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #57
cocodill wrote: post #55

Maybe for emails and calendars, wouldn't want them to arrive and miss the appointment.

Coordinating time-zone issues between remote meeting participants on a single celestial body is complex enough. >smile<

That gives me so many questions: Should there be a non-Earth timezone? How do you define a "day" in space? Is there a day light saving in space?

At least they are not travelling near the speed of light. That's a whole different can of worms.

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by maxerickson »

buildbot wrote: post #107
maxerickson wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you running that on a flight system or on an additional computer where it would be fine to run Windows?

The entire point is to avoid an OS like windows; and an email client like Outlook?

Yeah I get the point, I'm saying it's not really a good point, running Windows and Outlook on a secondary system is fine. Forcing the astronauts to learn to use some other system would be a waste of time and probably worse than whatever it is you see as the problem.

Re: Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

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Post by workfromspace »

AIorNot wrote: post #113

guys former NASA Mission Control Web Tool Team and OCA here (Orbital Comms Adapter office which was a backroom position) Crews have been using thinkpad laptops (personal laptops since the 2005) on the ISS and Shuttle. Artemis is likely an extension of this Laptops go through a long space hardening and verification process. Windows and Outlook is the result of that We used to do "Mail Syncs" which taking the outlook f…

> guys former NASA Mission Control Web Tool Team and OCA here

Wow, very cool and lot's of respect!

But... why not use linux, unix, custom OS, iPad, Android, Nintendo SNES, Atari, Commodore 64... anything BUT Microsoft?

(Seriously though, why not Linux? I'd really appreciate if you could answer, thank you! )

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